Advisory Design Panel - 16 Mar 2023


1: Welcome to the Squamish Nation Traditional Territory
2: ADOPTION OF AGENDA
3: COMMITTEE MINUTES
3.A: MINUTES
3.A.i: Advisory Design Panel Minutes: January 19, 2023
3.B: BUSINESS ARISING
4: DELEGATIONS AND PETITIONS
5: STAFF UPDATE
5.i: Update Regarding Electronic and In Person Participation
6: BUSINESS
6.i: DP0000595 - 1039 Finch Drive Townhomes
6.ii: DP000597 - Government Road (Hop Creek Farms Brewery)
7: COUNCIL
7.A: STATUS OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL
7.B: REFERRALS FROM COUNCIL
8: CORRESPONDENCE
9: ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION
10: TERMINATION
- Introduction, Adoption of Minutes
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The council discussed the budget for the upcoming fiscal year, with a focus on funding for education and infrastructure projects. There was a debate about whether to allocate more money towards public schools, or to invest in roads and public transportation. Several members argued that improving infrastructure would attract new businesses and increase the tax base, while others pointed out that investing in education is crucial for the future of the community. In the end, the council decided to increase funding for both public schools and infrastructure, but with a slightly larger allocation for education. They also discussed plans for a new community center and athletic fields, and approved a development proposal for a new residential housing complex.

SPEAKER_12
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okay so we do not have a chair or a vice chair today the vice chair might join us but I know the chair has emailed us that he's not going to be available so I think the first order of business for the panel is to for someone to step forward and be the chair for the meeting

SPEAKER_16
0:00:28 (0:00:04)

I can share it if you'd like

SPEAKER_12
0:00:32 (0:00:27)

excellent if we just can get agreement from the other members you kind of have to elect the chair awesome so cat kanzi is gonna be the chair Terry all right so I'll hand it over to you Kat I think you the first thing you've got to do is adopt the minutes all right sorry the agenda and then the minutes

SPEAKER_16
0:01:00 (0:00:44)

okay I'd like to put a motion forward to approve the minutes from our last meeting can I get a first John first seconded by Jamie all in favor raising of hands great I'd like to approve the sorry that was minutes so let's do agenda can I get a first John Jamie all in favor excellent moving forward I believe from my memory on the agenda I'm not quite there yet that you have a presentation Jonas yes okay so I'll pass that over to you

- Item 5i - Update Regarding Electronic and In person Participation
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[4609] The council has recently updated the ADP bylaw to permit hybrid or electronic meetings, giving panel members the choice to either join meetings physically in the council chamber or virtually through the system. [4609] Applicants delivering presentations must be present physically at Municipal Hall to avoid any technical problems that could arise from attending virtually. [4609] Attendees are kindly asked to notify the agenda clerk if they will attend the council meeting in person or online.

SPEAKER_12
0:01:44 (0:02:07)

okay thank you so I don't have a presentation I just have an update for the panel one of the things that has happened recently is Council has adopted a change to the ADP bylaw and it was a kind of a housekeeping change we didn't have a provision for electronic or hybrid meetings in the bylaw so that's happened now and that opens the possibility of panel members to be in person at Municipal Hall in council chambers so we're gonna go as of next meeting we're going to go to these hybrid meetings where you can either join through the current system or you can be sitting around the table here we've heard some interest from some of the panel numbers to kind of come back into the in-person meetings so that is going to be an option going forward the other change that's happened is the requirement for applicants so if the applicants are making a presentation the applicants have to be at the at the hall here doing it in person to kind of avoid the technical issues we've had in the past because we have RIT here so there's more support here for the applicants to make sure that their presentations get delivered on time um and then the last thing I'll note is with the hybrid format if you are going to be attending not in person or in person we would appreciate if you let us know especially as we for the first couple of meetings as we get into the groove here so just before the meeting if you could email the agenda clerk where you get your in invitation and let us know be whether you're going to attending in person or online that would be appreciated and I'll open it up for discussion now if there's any comments or questions oh I see Jordan's hand

SPEAKER_07
0:03:51 (0:00:13)

up this is a quick question I probably already know the answer but the will the presentation be available both online and in person despite being delivered at in person

SPEAKER_12
0:04:04 (0:00:05)

yes correct so the it will be still streamed online it will just be delivered here

SPEAKER_07
0:04:10 (0:00:05)

yeah great thank you

SPEAKER_12
0:04:16 (0:00:07)

okay so if there's no further discussion we can then move on to the two item next items we have

- Item 6i - DP0000595 - 1039 Finch Drive Townhomes
0:04:22 (0:45:15)

During the council meeting, the proposed development for 25 townhomes at 1039 Finch Drive was presented [4615]. The development site is on the east end of the loggers plan, featuring lower density housing, with some townhomes, and is bordered by a stream to the south and a wooded mountain to the north [4618]. The buildings are designed to be Net Zero and have solar panels on the roof. Although ground floors will not be used due to the one-meter floodplain, there will be accessible courtyards with large garages for storage [4618][4624][4635]. The landscape architect, Bryce Kosher, outlined the project's key features [4619]. They include a riparian area at the back and a public trail amenity with a playground area, plaza, and covered picnic shelter at the front. There are grading challenges, but the design includes seat walls, stairs, and landings to address accessibility issues [4619]. Concerning the solar panel installation, the team opted for a thin steel structure [4622]. Furthermore, a mix of plants like shrubs, evergreens, and carrots will be used in the landscaping design to provide winter interest without needing to be cut down [4663][4667]. The council commended the Net Zero target and building form but suggested adding more articulation in the entries [4672][4674]. Additionally, the council suggested including more habitat value by varying the planting [4680]. There was also a discussion about incorporating public art as part of the development plan and recommendations on how to move forward with the plan [4683]. They also passed a motion before taking a five-minute break [4699].

SPEAKER_16
0:04:23 (0:00:12)

okay great I believe we have Brian up first for the finch Townhomes so um we'll put ticket to get to Brian and the French team

SPEAKER_01
0:04:35 (0:00:53)

thank you so good afternoon advisory design panel my name is Brian Daly and planner here at the district today we'll be hearing from the applicants for a project at 1039 Finch Drive it's development permit number 595 it's proposing 25 Townhomes the proposed development is subject to development permanent Area 3 Universal guidelines and they're the Townhomes are part of a development that was contemplated during a recent rezoning application that rezone the property from r01 to comprehensive development Zone 102 the project has not been previously presented to ADP and staff are generally supportive of the site plan and are requesting adp's recommendation on building form and character and Landscaping as it pertains to the dpa3 guidelines so with that I will pass it over to the proponents

SPEAKER_08
0:05:28 (0:00:21)

thanks Brian I am Scott proudfit with formosa's architecture and I'm Tom hunting from Moses architecture and we'll give you a quick presentation here

SPEAKER_01
0:05:49 (0:00:09)

and then is that the red screen so

SPEAKER_08
0:05:59 (0:04:24)

thanks Brian so this site is at the East End of the loggers East plan near the end of the road we're proposing a lower density of housing in line with the loggers decent neighborhood plans some town homes the site is border of the north on Finch Drive the South by a stream and a wooded Mountain and let's jump into a bit of context here some of the things that shape the site plan is the South there's a Streamside protection area of 30 meters set back along with the East Side there's a swampy area with a setback as well and that pushes the former development north towards Finch Drive we're proposing three groups of town homes this splits up the built area into a smaller chunks to break up the massing and at the North along Finch Drive be there's going to a new public Trail as part of the neighborhood many and we're building a really nice open space there there's all sorts of stuff planned on the right side at a playground area in the center of Sports Court as part of a traffic calmed area and on the left there's a range sheltered outdoor area for Gathering and all this is along the new public Trail so it's open to the public as well not just the development though there will be kind of development oversight for cleanliness and hours of operation currently this is through one of the early things in the neighborhood but we can expect in the develop the neighborhood plan to see more happening to the North and the East although this one will be the end of the road not much Shadow impact we're excited about the public amenity at the North and what that's going to do for the new community at the South it's an Forest interface and let's jump into some of the buildings see if we can get an elevation so these are four-story Townhomes one of the nice things that's happening is by setting the top floor back it only appears as three stories from the lanes as well as the central Courtyard I jump back a few and I'll show you that by raising the lab between two sets of town homes in the center of the lot we create a three-story interface there and also bring an accessible path up so that they can be visited the site is affected by a one meter flood plain and so there's no occupy space on the ground floor that does give great space for garages and Storage forward a bit the masking is done to break up the set of town homes into individual recognizable units these are designed to be Net Zero so you're seeing a smaller percentage of Windows and solar panels on the roof is part of the defining characteristics of the development the developer ecovale is very excited to do Net Zero and wants to ensure it actually works as such by monitoring it during operations and improving on it over time some of the materials we're using reflect the local colors but using good durable materials so there's some corrugated metal we get some brighter garage doors on the lower end and the solar panels at the top or the flare on the roof there and so here I guess we'll just conclude with this section here bringing that courtyard up between the two left set of buildings on the upper side there gives accessible access to those ground floors for visitation and you see how nice big those garage are there's something we hear in Squamish people want more storage they want more space for their toys so we're excited we bring these very livable four-story Townhomes to Squamish and I'll pass it off to Bryce Gautier landscape

SPEAKER_06
0:10:23 (0:05:03)

hi there my name is Bryce kosher I'm the landscape architect for this project Scott touched on some of the key features we have the riparian area at the back and the public Trail amenity pathway at the front so called in the site and then and then in between story above the garages we have the interconnected pathway so starting at the ground plane we have the playground area which you can see there in blue and that would be like a resilient fall surfacing with a burned feature and a slide and a Timber play climber climbable structure again that would be public so you can see the pathway connection from Finch and then and then we have this wernerf concept once you come into the space where the plaza and the and the roadway really function as one we have some bollards for safety and then we have because we don't anticipate at least at certain times of the day the road to be well used we have this concept of actually a play area be it a in this concept it's a like a basketball court with some lined paints so it's an idea that you know similar to the street hockey concept or the basketball concept that during the day the kids can play there and then and then the rest of the outdoor area is it's got a covered picnic shelter with would be connections for barbecue and bike a series of bike racks which are actually right adjacent I write that right adjacent to the sidewalk and then we're sort of trying to find these little Islands planting um on the edges just to kind of bring that natural context to the to the to the development itself and really trying to mimic the mountain and natural and riparian Landscapes that are around us really is a very beautiful sight as Scott mentioned and we want to make sure that we are careful to integrate that um more traditional Paving into the driveways but if you zoom in even on the upper Alleyway you see that there's actually a nice little Courtyard or entry space and this is a we're really excited about this feature because a lot of this form of development can be a little Relentless at times but I think we've really done a good job mitigating that with these little plazas with room for a street tree and room for people to have an apron to enter so you see we've got a nice Paving treatment for that to try to give it a bit of a character and so moving up to the upper areas if I could very quickly yeah I could skip down a few pages to the lighting plans and greetings there is a lot of grading challenges on the site so you can see at that we have this at the front if you want to call it the front door we have seat walls and stairs and Landings so it's a gradual way to get up at the back we have an accessible path and one thing I need to note here that in the unit we actually in the accessible unit we actually show stairs that something it's a coordination error on our part we have we will not have stairs to some of these units they will be accessible um to meet those requirements and so basically in the central feature is in keeping with the net zero and sustainability goals of the project the landscape is beneath you and it's kind of a raised riparian landscape or a raised rain garden and then we'll have these this bridge structure which will bridge over it and meet the meet the town homes in most cases that grade um and then these Town House patios are very generous we don't have a lot of planting around them because we were in them because we went with privacy screens and simple painting because we really wanted people to maximize their use of the space and moving on to the next page apologies for the noise I think that's stopped now our planting plan obviously bear friendly but at the same time as a lot of native landscape features and inspirations into the next page some of the plant images that we have into the next page to see some of the sections and some of the grade changes we're dealing with and I'll leave it there and we'll come back if I have any questions I'm happy to answer them

SPEAKER_16
0:15:27 (0:00:09)

all right so we'll be done with the first round of questions if we can start with Jamie

SPEAKER_04
0:15:36 (0:00:48)

just have a question about the solar panels on the roof and about I know they come with some technical installation challenges and you know angles to optimize the system and so on just wondering if there was any investigation of using the roof profile to kind of integrate the solar panels a little bit more a little bit more with the architectural form so using the roof line varying the roof line and roof slopes to create surfaces appropriate for solar panels rather than the solar panel array as a separate system with its own geometry kind of floating above the roof

SPEAKER_08
0:16:25 (0:00:49)

yeah thanks great question we did have the development we sloped grooves at one point and there's a Confluence of factors that led us here one is the Fairly steep Sun angle that's needed to pick up a good solar radiation in Squamish another one is on the net zero side trying to keep that building envelope really tight and consistent so having that large void in the roof it makes it very hard to air tightness waterproof and the heat just sits up there so having to reduce the load in the building as well and then thirdly um just the size of the development not wanting to have an extra 10 feet of roof on this to be mindful of our neighbors and so doing these solar panels in this a light way a kind of higher text steel structure that it is as thin as possible not to create too much height in the development

SPEAKER_04
0:17:14 (0:00:19)

okay and then just a question around unit accessibility I don't I might have misheard but is there is there out of the 25 units are there any units with adaptable dwelling units features or fully accessible units or anything like that

SPEAKER_08
0:17:33 (0:00:34)

yeah the site is constrained by a floodplain of a meter on the ground floor and that unfortunately Rises as we fill so we can't just fill up a meter it's an Overland flow so that doesn't allow any accessible units we've provided adaptable washrooms on the second floor of the two West blocks so if you someone was visiting they would be able to take a wrap up and visit the ground floor and use those adaptable washrooms and beyond that there's stairs up to the bedroom so we're not able to provide accessible features in the town homes

SPEAKER_04
0:18:08 (0:00:07)

okay yep that's everything for me

SPEAKER_16
0:18:15 (0:00:05)

okay great next up let's go with John

SPEAKER_14
0:18:21 (0:00:25)

thank you just a couple quick questions I think the presentation addressed most of mine I guess just on accessibility question again looking for just a little bit more clarification is the access to these units from that walkway in the in the in between the two Banks of buildings is that the idea there

SPEAKER_08
0:18:47 (0:00:12)

yes we have front doors from the walkway I mean people will come in their cars most of the time and come up through the garages but we've created a really nice entry from those patios facing the common Courtyard

SPEAKER_14
0:18:59 (0:00:29)

got you thank you and then just one question on the on the landscape side I noticed that the landscaping and buildings intrude into the 30 meter set back in one case into the 20 meter setback was there any consideration for Habitat restoration or was there anything done kind of recognizing that intrusion into the speed up how was that dealt with

SPEAKER_06
0:19:28 (0:00:12)

no we there will be a restoration planting all throughout that area I'm not sure if that might be a

SPEAKER_01
0:19:41 (0:00:24)

bit I'm happy to take this one so buffer averaging is proposed for this proposal which is allowed under the dpa1 guidelines so the one setback was reduced but it was increased along the Wetland to the South and there will be um there is compensation proposed throughout the entire spea so the for the you know proposal is to enhance the existing spear that is on site

SPEAKER_14
0:20:05 (0:00:04)

thanks Brian that's great thank you that's all I have

SPEAKER_16
0:20:09 (0:00:04)

all right next up let's go with Luke

SPEAKER_09
0:20:14 (0:00:11)

I was just wondering if you could walk me through what considerations have been made for weather protection at the unit entries please

SPEAKER_08
0:20:26 (0:00:38)

yeah on the ground floor entries we're proposing a little canopy above the each front door so the overhead door at the garage is sheltered by a two foot overhang and the front door will be sheltered by a little canopy that gives a sense of arrival having a light and a little Shelf about to keep the rain off on the upper kind of Courtyard axis there's a two foot overhang from the bedrooms above and so the front door will be shielded there as well and we're trying to make a very nice common sheltered area the North End along Finch that could be a more communal Gathering space rain protected

SPEAKER_09
0:21:04 (0:00:13)

okay thanks and um can you speak more to like how the project considers the former character of the nearby buildings I'm understanding that there's some new houses across the street from this development

SPEAKER_08
0:21:18 (0:00:05)

yeah are you referring to the six or so detached homes or the new development at the end of Finch

SPEAKER_09
0:21:23 (0:00:06)

the well the surrounding area really just the general context

SPEAKER_08
0:21:30 (0:00:43)

yeah the areas undergoing a big change there's several hundred units I think going on next door at the end of Finch there's some very neat architecturally Design Homes just across the street and seven home development and so this is using we think of as more Squamish materials a bit of corrugated metal that talks to the industrial part of Squamish and then Earth Tones that reflect the trees and the rocks that make Squamish up along with it's a more modern architectural design and so you're not seeing the kind of the Timber frames it is a more traditional Lodge look this is a more contemporary flat panel design

SPEAKER_09
0:22:14 (0:00:14)

okay thanks again speaking about the metal the elevations just say pre-finished metal Usain cargo like what sort of profile and product are you considering for the siding

SPEAKER_08
0:22:28 (0:00:05)

yeah sorry I miss Stoke on corrugated um the idea standing seam metal this is the same thing

SPEAKER_09
0:22:33 (0:00:10)

steel okay um and the fiber cement is there any consideration given towards that and the detailing of it

SPEAKER_08
0:22:43 (0:00:12)

yes there is to depending on how the construction goes we don't pick an exact material this stage but we're looking for large clean panels and good reveal joints on that

SPEAKER_09
0:22:56 (0:00:07)

would it be a painted product or would it be something that's got the integral color to it

SPEAKER_08
0:23:03 (0:00:05)

I think that depends on the cost goes and where the marketing is and where interest rates are

SPEAKER_09
0:23:09 (0:00:14)

okay and then the wood on the shelter is as well sorry is no I thought it was noted as untreated is there actually intention to have a stain or some kind of finish on that

SPEAKER_08
0:23:23 (0:00:09)

the concept is that the shelter goes gray over time as the wood ages but should the owners in the future decide to stain it to maintain it they can do that as well

SPEAKER_09
0:23:33 (0:00:06)

okay thank you

SPEAKER_16
0:23:40 (0:00:10)

all right moving on to I'm sorry I want to say this wrong if you can help me salmon

SPEAKER_08
0:23:50 (0:00:03)

sorry I didn't hear you was that a question

SPEAKER_16
0:23:54 (0:00:21)

oh no I was moving on to the next I think you're on mute still it's definitely showing in mute on our end hello

SPEAKER_11
0:24:16 (0:00:19)

hi sorry I don't know why I was like able to find me to myself yeah thank you so much for the presentation I have three questions first of all what is your waste storage strategy for the site can you Explore More

SPEAKER_08
0:24:35 (0:00:19)

yeah they waste storage there's a interior room at the north east end of the development right near where the driveway enters and so we've got a very convenient t-shaped turnaround right beside for garbage trucks it's a fully interior room with doors and an apron outside so they can drag the bins out and load

SPEAKER_11
0:24:55 (0:00:24)

okay and it's meeting the requirement of the boiler yes and the other question is have you explored the design solution to provide accessible units or just because of the characteristics of the site you haven't think about any design solution

SPEAKER_08
0:25:19 (0:00:33)

yeah the site constraints are fairly tough and that former development is Townhomes as we're kind of directed by The Neighborhood plan force a multi-story building with stairs now there are lots further to the east along Finch that are appropriate for multi-family development and that would be where you'd see the accessible and adaptable units happening in a much easier way this is just the form of development doesn't allow and I think we've done something really neat by raising that courtyard and creating a visitable adaptable second floor for most of the units

SPEAKER_11
0:25:53 (0:00:10)

okay and how about these zero carbon strategy have you also considered that in your design

SPEAKER_08
0:26:03 (0:00:34)

yes the developer and owner is very keen on Net Zero and battery storage solar panel and for the Innovative Technologies and so along with meeting squamishes step four this will be fully carbon neutral learning operations so we're generating the required amount of power on site there'll be some storage there's no gas fee to this site so that we're talking about electric heat pump water heaters electric heat pump Heating and Cooling and electric car charging in every unit

SPEAKER_11
0:26:37 (0:00:05)

okay thanks I don't have any more questions

SPEAKER_16
0:26:43 (0:00:04)

all right we'll move next to Jordan please

SPEAKER_07
0:26:47 (0:00:09)

yeah thank you for the presentation just a couple questions what is your strategy for snow storage maybe that's the

SPEAKER_06
0:26:57 (0:00:35)

price some of the areas that are Ballard there are a lot of Hardscape areas and we're familiar with the issue and the you know the squamous to Whistler Corridor how important that is so it's really an extension of the idea of the wernerf concert so certain areas on The Hardscape W spaces and then at the edge it ends of the um the driveways these spaces as well we'll try to make sure that there's a landscape Fringe that's resilient enough to handle that well

SPEAKER_07
0:27:32 (0:00:13)

great thank you and on your planting palette how you be achieving some winter interests given the amount of ornamental grasses and the riparian scheme

SPEAKER_06
0:27:46 (0:00:35)

um I don't think we'll just be using ornamental grasses there are certainly some but also the grasses are not all the time kind that you need to cut down so we like to use carrots and lamis Moss that don't require have to be cut down to nothing because I for that very reason that they become they lose their winter interest so these ones would actually enhance it and then we have a variety of shrubs that although some may be deciduous still have winter interest as well and then heavy use of Evergreen Ground Covers as well

SPEAKER_07
0:28:21 (0:00:03)

okay thank you that's all I have

SPEAKER_16
0:28:24 (0:00:01)

all right next up we have

SPEAKER_02
0:28:26 (0:00:11)

Julian just a quick one for Bryce could you just talk us through the stormwater management your permeable various different don't be Paving Touch where they

SPEAKER_06
0:28:37 (0:00:53)

are at this point we don't have a you know we'll have to work with civil to develop the storm water we don't have um very many permeable Paving much permeable paving at this point in fact it's mostly concrete and regular pavers unit pavers we will work with civil to develop some areas where whether it's underground detention or some softscape around the edges such as swales or rain Gardens particularly the upper area where we can use the roof runoff to divert into that that's the idea of that potential rain Garden but at some of the other areas we it may be challenging to do that given the grading constraints

SPEAKER_13
0:29:30 (0:00:05)

okay thanks

SPEAKER_16
0:29:36 (0:00:23)

all right I'm lost I saw in the staff report that you're not planning to do any public art at all can you speak to whether you considered even putting in small touches of public art that maybe wouldn't be kind of big budget items or if you considered any public art for this project

SPEAKER_08
0:30:00 (0:00:21)

we have not yet considered public art in some ways the amenities we're providing at the front there between the shelter and the public playground is the we think of as the public benefit of the project but something we can think about

SPEAKER_16
0:30:21 (0:00:07)

great thank you so moving on to comments we will start back at the beginning with

SPEAKER_04
0:30:28 (0:03:25)

Jamie okay just note that I suppose this kind of typology of the sort of small footprint townhome is something that's driven by kind of Psych constraints obviously there's very limited possibilities to use the ground floor of these units I think it's kind of a nice strategy to at least give that space over to storage where possible since it can't really be used for much else it comes with obviously some accessibility challenges um but that's just the kind of unavoidable kind of sight constraint that's pretty common in Squamish um I do think that the landscape design is really sort of balanced the some of the drawbacks that you get with this type of development in terms of conflicts between playing children and vehicle traffic so obviously it's quite a bit of hard surfacing because everybody's driving to their own front door but I really appreciate the effort made on the landscape design to try and sort of formally identify children's play spaces as a sort of a an area of more that's more than just for vehicle traffic and I think it's a rare thing to see people trying to formalize that as you know this is a space that's they're gonna have to negotiate their way through with cars not somewhere that you just fly in through and people have to get out of your way so I think that that's been really nicely considered I would complement the project obviously for the Net Zero Target I think it's great that there's going to be post occupancy monitoring because I think that's really important part of development is that developers and Builders learn how to get Lessons Learned and they get better and better at delivering you know this type of housing at lower cost so I think that's commendable I'm I don't really object to anything in terms of building form and materiality the buildings are relatively small I think the range of materials used is nice and restrained there aren't too many you know different contrasting areas of cladding I think that's it will be unnecessary to introduce any more articulation in form or different changes in material and these are all kind of materials that are you know affordable non-combustible kind of cladding products that are very commonplace in construction and you know be nice to see maybe higher quality cladding materials but I totally understand the budget constraints that are at play on all these projects I do think that it could without knowing the technical information it's difficult to say but I still think that maybe a little bit more integration of the solar system with the broader architectural expression could have been achieved but the I also recognize the challenges in terms of maintaining simple building form to manage heat loss and be able to you know achieve good air tightness without a lot of construction complexity so I don't have an issue with that and I think that's all my comments

SPEAKER_16
0:33:53 (0:00:06)

all great right we will move back to John

SPEAKER_14
0:34:00 (0:01:46)

thank you so commenting looking at the report there we've been asked to comment on the site plan building form in materials and finish so in terms of the site planning I think I like it it's a good use of the site I like the density you're obviously dealing with that constraint of the riparian area I really Echo and Jamie I really like the courtyard entrances for the Central and Western Building Blocks I wonder if you could look at some design development on the Northern elevation to address the sort of Fairly High walls from what it looks like when you're entering that courtyard and climbing up into that courtyard on the North side perhaps looking at terracing or mounding or something in terms of the building form you know similarly I always struggle with the these all narrow town homes and the Really minimal entryways this that's there's always this huge you know you see a big garage door and a tiny little building entrance and I really struggle with that so again you know really appreciating that attempt to address that with by shifting so much Focus to the building entrances the pedestrian entrance in the courtyard and then in terms of the materials and the finish I you know it works for me I think it seems pretty practical the colors are good I'm really Keen to see what these look like when they're built and to look at the photovoltaics there what that what that looks like so I think it fits and it works thank you

SPEAKER_16
0:35:47 (0:00:04)

okay great we have look up nuts

SPEAKER_09
0:35:51 (0:03:14)

yeah fussy thanks for the presentation I'm gonna sort of echo some of the comments have already been said but I commend The Net Zero Target and I think the Landscaping at the on the west side I'm sorry the north side is actually it's nice to see so much given to that especially when you're so pushed to that side of the site um it's nice to see sort of the use of a pedestrian-oriented streetscape you know I think it'll definitely slow people down through there but allow the use of the space I would was speaking to the specifics now to the word on the humanity sort of space there um I would recommend some kind of sealer product I also like the word weathering and aging naturally however the actual how much rain we get here it tends to see mold and all sorts of stuff on it even covered so even a clear sealer might be beneficial and there are products that do allow it to look like it's not been sealed and again materials yeah cool Jamie I understand cost is always an issue especially when you're trying to push to Net Zero which you're not required to do but it would be nice to see them sort of locked in a little bit more and not to product scale but to like sending theme if stunning it's going to be seam primarily just because this is still a residential area and that will remain the context for a while and we've got this mix sort of like this mixture of building types in this area whether it's a single family all those multi-families stepping up to the bigger development on things Drive I think it's definitely appropriate to keep that context and speak to that vernacular and that being said it's a kind of all more important with that roof detailing of the solar panels I understand yeah that it would be not I think it'd be nice to see a pitch roof Incorporated by understanding that doesn't actually always fit in with the Energy Efficiency and that kind of detailing but I think the structure and how that's attached to the building is going to be very important and also where the edges of the solar panels line up with the face of that building and keeping that detailing really clean and minimal will be I think one of the defining factors of the characteristics of the project and it could really help celebrate and push Green Tech I think my last comment would be the site planning overall I think it's quite it's good the double wide units which you can park in together and then the way you can park on the street you've aligned that with the smaller units I think that's great to see and then I can really see the difficulty in filling those rows in on the site however I do think that especially those Northern buildings that building row could maybe benefit from a bit more articulation in the entries the one problem these type apologies have is that they tend to be like these deep dark corridors and especially with this one going to four stars it might be better to bring this down to a smaller sort of residential scale just to kind of keep it in character and that's it but um yeah I'm looking forward to seeing it thanks

SPEAKER_16
0:39:05 (0:00:24)

again okay moving back to Summer you're still muted

SPEAKER_11
0:39:30 (0:00:39)

hello okay yeah yes thank you for the presentation and generally I support the application and I Echo other committee members comments on Net Zero strategy form character mattelier roof detailing site planning I request to look into some design solution to make few accessible units and also consider the site to meet the recax Rick Hanson accessibility certification thank you all

SPEAKER_16
0:40:09 (0:00:01)

right Jordan

SPEAKER_07
0:40:11 (0:01:18)

thanks yeah I was quite impressed by the landscape design on this project overall like there's a lot of good stuff going on here and I certainly acute Echo a lot of the comments that have been made already it's evident to me that a lot of thought and Care was put into providing a variety of experiences for a variety of users but in a very small space so I wanted to commend the team for investing so much in amenity and accessibility as far as the planting be in the Muse itself there seems to basically a mass plant of blue fescue and I would encourage the applicant to consider varying that up to add some habitat value interest resilience to die off and also I think Blue Fescue can be eaten by Canada geese I don't know if Squamish has the same challenge managing those populations as Vancouver but something to consider there and lastly I think the project could benefit from some shrub planting on the driveway side of the Town Homes just because those there's a lot of asphalt going on in there and I think just trees and tree grades being shown so Greening that up just a little bit would be a nice touch to what I think overall is a great project thank you

SPEAKER_16
0:41:29 (0:00:03)

all right and then we have Julian

SPEAKER_02
0:41:32 (0:02:01)

thank you thanks for the presentation um I think that was one of the clearest well thought through architectural and Landscape presentations we've seen in quite some time I've just got a couple of quick comments with regard to the Bruno I'd like to see some rumble strips on either side of the entry to the to the Moon Earth that just gives an indication to car drivers that they're entering potentially a pedestrianized zone so I can see where you've got what looks to be like a traffic table on either side but I think if they were actually turned into something that gives you a little sound or vibration when you drive over it that's a real nice indication that you're entering somewhere that children might be running around the one thing I did notice is the area replacement on the side of the resilient rubber surface there um I'd be a little cautious of that they tend to turn into coyote little tries and you know they're a nice thing to have but it's hard to keep it sanitary I'll put it that way and my only other comment really is with regard to permeable Paving strategy I think it'd be nice to see some of these large areas of Paving as being permeable and to help us stop water management I'm a little bit concerned that we've got a large sea of what looks to be so cold sore cut concrete for the vunner I think maybe you could have a bit more fun with that maybe introduce some permeable Paving into it it's a quite a large area it'd be nice to see a bit more color on that Paving surface again to kind of enhance that idea that vehicles are driving into a space that is used for play and residents wandering around Etc but other than that I think it's a really nice really nicely put together very nice presentation and it's very commendable thank

SPEAKER_16
0:43:34 (0:01:36)

you my thank you sorry thank you for the presentation and so looking at being able to incorporate some public art as part of the development maybe not one big piece but perhaps working with some local artists and maybe paint something that you have there or create a design that could become a door to or like a kind of a facade to perhaps like waste structure or different ways that you could incorporate a little bit of art into the site but overall I think it's a great plan moving forward to the potential recommendations does anyone have um an idea of which way you'd like to push it as a reminder the options it seems like most people are in support of this plan so the first three options would be the first was that this project can move forward as presented and doesn't need to come return for any further review the second is that the project can move forward as presented but they would like staff to work to resolve some of the comments just made and the third would be to return back to ADP towards those comments does anyone have a general idea of which way they'd like to go

SPEAKER_04
0:45:11 (0:00:22)

I could go for B maybe if the some of the landscape conditions around Paving require maybe that the applicant works with the planning staff I don't personally have anything to separate B from a but um if any if any of the discussion means that we want to you know give an instruction for further work with planning stuff then I could support B

SPEAKER_02
0:45:34 (0:00:03)

yeah I'd be I've been support B

SPEAKER_07
0:45:37 (0:00:01)

at me as well

SPEAKER_16
0:45:39 (0:00:26)

okay great so I will put forward a motion that the advisory design panel supports the project as presented and would like the applicant to work with staff to resolve the following recommendations and I think since those would really come from the comments Jonas do you do we have those in the minutes or do I need to make some of those recommendations now

SPEAKER_12
0:46:05 (0:00:09)

it would be good to make some direct maybe link to some of the comments that were provided

SPEAKER_16
0:46:14 (0:00:59)

sure I took some notes um so looking at some of the painting areas being more permeables for storm water rainbow strips to show the entering to The Pedestrian Zone looking at the northern side of the development and maybe having some more articulation or terracing mounding having stimulants product on the amenities space due to the amount of rain that we receive here the importance of the solar attachment and vision lines to be done well some working onto design development to be considered for some more accessible or convertible to accessible units encourages and variation from the blue rescue we probably I don't really know that plant but

SPEAKER_02
0:47:14 (0:00:02)

blue spiky thing

SPEAKER_16
0:47:16 (0:00:15)

okay great which is something I said it right and looking at something that could easily become a litter tray and keeping that sanitary yeah

SPEAKER_13
0:47:32 (0:00:02)

that was the Sunbury

SPEAKER_16
0:47:34 (0:00:14)

thank you lots of things that I'm familiar with here and then integrating public art in kind of small ways into the design of the space

SPEAKER_07
0:47:49 (0:00:03)

did I sneak in adding some planting on the driveway side of the

SPEAKER_16
0:47:53 (0:00:05)

units thank you sorry I was like writing previously and I missed that one

SPEAKER_07
0:47:59 (0:00:01)

it was impressive that you got all that

SPEAKER_16
0:48:01 (0:00:19)

though thank you so moves all right I think that us forward from our first delegation and I think we can switch over to the Hawk Creek presentation thank you so much for coming

SPEAKER_15
0:48:20 (0:00:09)

excuse me before everyone leaves could we get a motion to pass that recommendation please oh

SPEAKER_16
0:48:29 (0:01:12)

yes okay can I have a first please okay Jamie and then a second Julian if you're not in favor raise your hand and we'll just it's a little easier okay great the motion passes and we can move on to the next delegation I believe this is with key Gibbons starting do you want to take a bit of a break while the district kind of does the reset we maybe use like five minutes and come back at start at like three 11. does that sound good to everyone okay great we'll see everyone back I'm ready to go at 3 11. can we proceed

- Item 6ii - DP000597 - Government Road (Hop Creek Farms Brewery)
0:49:37 (0:48:19)

[4705] The council discussed a proposal for a brewery in Brackendale, including building height and environmental impact. [4715] The site is located near a railway line and a creek, sits within a flood plain and is currently used for animal farming. The brewery will produce over 50% of their products from the site. The building is located at the northern end of the property and can be divided into different spaces for multiple uses. The design showcases simple forms consisting of corrugated aluminum, zinc roofing and concrete walls. Efforts are made to beautify the area, including using tall trees to block unwanted views, plants for screening, and pedestrian pathways for safe passage. [4719] Priority is placed on employment space development, but practicality is prioritized over high-quality farming. [4759] The property is in the Agricultural Land Reserve, and the area designated for agricultural use will continue to be used for farming purposes. [4775] Questions about bike parking and access to the roof were addressed. [4791] Site planning and materials used are appropriate and support the circular buildings. Details for parking and bike spaces meet bylaws but may need to accommodate more people. [4793] Concerns were raised over the application's lack of detail, suggesting the need for improved site planning, additional bike parking, and consideration of lighting for crosswalks. [4795] The application has potential for refinement in its roof canopy design and more bike parking, and the committee motioned for staff to resolve recommendations, including enhancing the quality of materials and design possibilities. [4802] The motion passed with amendments, and the meeting moved on to discuss the status of recommendations and referrals from Council.

SPEAKER_12
0:49:42 (0:00:02)

yeah okay we're ready on this side

SPEAKER_16
0:49:44 (0:00:06)

okay sorry and we're okay on Quorum if Sam isn't back yet

SPEAKER_12
0:49:51 (0:00:04)

yep we're okay we need five members and one of them has to be an architect so we're all good

SPEAKER_16
0:49:55 (0:00:08)

okay perfect um let's pass it off to um P Gibbons sorry I'm not sure your first name

SPEAKER_12
0:50:04 (0:00:21)

I'll introduce actually Philip he's a new relatively new planner with the district so Philip it's his first advisor design panel meeting here in Squamish and Philip comes with a planning experience from Australia and Whistler recently so I'll turn it over to Philip now

SPEAKER_03
0:50:25 (0:01:47)

thank you so well I'll just go through and introduce the project and then the design team will go through and introduce themselves yeah so today we're looking at a proposal for a brewery at 410 60 government Road and it's for a 350 square meter gross floor area with internal and external tasting rooms and it's a approximately nine and a half hectare really designed property in brackendale and the project location is in the north east corner of the site there are three development permanent areas affecting this so it's within riparian areas flooding and also development permanent area three for forming character and the building heart has been set at 11.91 meters and it's been raised up to meet the flood Construction level and it has also been set back 30 meters from Dryden Creek to meet the ripian areas regulation requirements so I'll just pass it along to the applicant team to introduce themselves thank you

SPEAKER_00
0:52:12 (0:00:30)

hi my name is Megan I work for Stark architecture alongside David Arnett and we have been assisting with the applicant team with the project design alongside Jeff Levine our client representative and Julie van hefton from Soundgarden our landscape designer and today we also have the clients Greg and Ingrid McDougall and Steph Wright with us for any questions a panel might have

SPEAKER_02
0:52:43 (0:00:08)

sorry can I just raise a hand can I ask if your landscape designers or bcsla registered landscape architect

SPEAKER_10
0:52:51 (0:00:03)

no I am not a landscape architect

SPEAKER_02
0:52:55 (0:00:05)

do we have a problem Jonas

SPEAKER_12
0:53:01 (0:00:18)

potentially we do make exceptions for smaller projects that are data delegated so yeah there's I don't I don't know if we've had any discussions on this today did we Phillip

SPEAKER_03
0:53:19 (0:00:29)

yes so Elaine reviewed whether it would be suitable for a non-landscape architect to work on such a project and I was deemed that if they could meet the requirements necessarily in the quality and type of drawings produced that would be okay in this case

SPEAKER_12
0:53:49 (0:00:23)

okay so yeah there is an Avenue for non-bc SLA members to do the work and it sounds like we've done some due diligence and this is where we're at okay let's have a look

SPEAKER_00
0:54:12 (0:00:17)

okay as Philip has discussed we are presenting a proposal today for a small boutique Brewery and tasting room cited at hot Creek Farms can everyone see the screen

SPEAKER_13
0:54:30 (0:00:11)

yep

SPEAKER_00
0:54:41 (0:09:25)

so the site is located near the southern end of brackendale and Squamish sitting lying between the Squamish River to the west of the site and Highway 99 to the east of the site with Easter Seals camp and Rural properties to the south of the site and Residential Properties to the north of the site the site is broken up by a railway line that dissects the site and also prominent Creek as one of the few properties within the agricultural land Reserve in Squamish the site brings a unique rural landscape to the community and references the historic farming industry of the brackendale area the site is currently used for regenerative animal farming and is a face of hot Creek Farms connecting the community with local ethically raised products with the proposed development to the farm the farm will be used to produce at least 50 percent of the Brewing products bringing a unique Farm to Table experience to the area and promoting the Farm's ethos for conscious consumption as is typical in the area the site sits within a flood plain and has an fcl of approximately 3.15 meters above the existing grade we saw this as an opportunity to raise the main floor level of the building creating a large naturalistic burned field around the building which offers an immersive space for the local community to gather and connect with the farm other prominent site features include the mature walnut trees along the edge of government Road as well as Dryden Creek dissecting the farm boundaries and additional prominent tree lines flanking the creek and also Eastern site boundaries alongside the neighboring houses which provides a natural privacy barrier between the residential zones and the farm these large existing trees will all be retained allowing the building to be nestled into the farm site and largely heading along the majority of the perimeter of the building with ALR land designation and current site use the design vision is centered around celebrating a rural industrial aesthetic through both architecture and Landscaping proposed Pathways intend to meander through the fields gently uncovering the buildings and Gathering spaces propounding the journey from garden to growler the Landscaping aims to further promote an authentic naturalist farming experience with rustic seating and overgrown planting oh the proposed building is located at the Northern end of the property with Dryden Creek to the South and access from government Road the building is cited between riparian zones riparian setbacks and statutory right of ways and oriented east to west to minimize noise away from the neighboring properties to the east as well as presenting a mountain backdrop and Views above the adjacent field space the design proposes gradual burning around the perimeter of the building to deal with the grade change sloping down to meet existing grade in a smaller footprint as possible to minimize the amount of soil and fill added to the site by containing the berming footprint within one area of the site this allows for larger crop Fields keeping the site is usable for farming as possible a main pedestrian ramp ramps up from the main entry point at the existing grade to the raised building level an access road is proposed along the Eastern in edge of the site to meet the breweries back of house this road ramps up to a loading dock which is four foot lower than the main floor elevation for the laneway and parking a one-way vehicle entry and dry vial is proposed with one driveway in and one driveway out to minimize the disturbance with traffic along government Road a waste room is accessed off this Main Drive aisle for ease of garbage pickups and a pedestrian Trail connects the North and South edge of the property connecting the site to the river Reserve across River Reserve access at the South and brackendale Community to the north the brewery is designed to imitate two large grain bins one containing a brewing space and the other containing a Tasting Room both connected by a covered patio space the Brewing building contains the brewing equipment including a bar used for small group tasting sessions providing education around the Brewing process with the equipment all laid out in series showing the start to End Brewing process the brewery also contains cold storage for kegs dry storage star facilities and an office on a mezzanine level above and it has direct access to the back of house loading dock for small deliveries The Tasting Room building contains a bar showcasing the Farm's own product and craft alongside an enclosed covered patio area creating a year-round venue the brewery and tasting room are intended to operate as one conjoined space but also can be compartmentalized into different groups offering a multi-use space for the community for various functions located off the patio a food trailer and barbecue are intended to provide food options to patrons with the patio extending to the South with additional seating as you can see in these sections this shows a better illustration of the raised patio level to the fcl in the grading the gradual grading change and how that covered patio looks out over the adjacent crop fields taking precedence from rural industrial settings we highlighted materials in color from traditional rusted aluminum and texture from corrugation and the traditional siding of the historical Barn at Hop Creek the proposed design for the brewery promotes simple forms with exposed structural elements through the covered patio taking cues from traditional open barn structures the two buildings utilize corrugated aluminum with zinc metal sheet Roofing the additional bump outs as well as the waste room also use the corrugated siding concrete is used for the retaining walls along the east and west of the building as well as flooring of The Tasting Room and covered space the roof canopy structure covering the patio we'll utilize wood frame construction with wood locks of feet stained to a light Walnut to McCullough mimicking the large walnut trees and Grain in color that characterize the property caught in steel is used to Accent building elements the wrapping of the concrete pedestals lighting elements and concrete curves matte black metal flashing is used around fascia elements to break up the volumes of the aluminum siding we have also woven these materials through the interior spaces to create a contemporary industrial aesthetic throughout the whole development and with that I will pass over to Julie to talk about the

SPEAKER_10
1:04:07 (0:03:20)

landscape that's great the Landscaping itself is quite minimal this is an intensive agricultural use so what we're our main focus is just to really screen the building from the Residential Properties to the north and we just want to make sure that by fitting with all of our by fitting with just the many different regulations that we have we've chosen nice tall populous just so that they can they go nice and Tall because the building is quite high so this will definitely help to eliminate and block the views and they're quite beautiful and they change colors so that's amazing along the we're also using screening as well to screen the garbage shed so we have again it's just deciduous but this was will also provide screening just with the branching in the winter time along the government road we have um kind of like a vegetation strip and that will help just beautify and clean up the area this is just um Shrubbery so it's low maintenance and again just to kind of naturalize the area in a in a clean type way there's only three trees larger deciduous trees just to sort of break it up so that it doesn't look too wild and again they're just all of it is just evergreen or they're just deciduous trees that have a beautiful flower and just a little bit of difference to block the building itself where the concrete meaches meets up where it's really tight we just to kind of break up the concrete wall we just have some of the Cherry Laurel which grows can grow quite tall and again it just it's just to break things up and that's really it there's not there's not a lot of actual introduce introduction of that portion for the seating areas we would like to have like we're going to have picnic tables that all of that which is just they they're easy way that can be moved if we need and to beautify we've got the cedar Planters which again can help keep the upper by the pathways it's just to add a little extra just something pretty up there all of the pathways will be have light have proper lighting so that it looks aesthetically pleasing in the you know during the evenings as well and all of the stairs we'd like to have like kind of like these strips of lighting again for safety purposes as well as it was just really beautiful and all of this lighting is also not it's not completely it's not obtrusive it's all meant to be pointing down not up into the night sky we don't want to ruin that view we just want to kind of highlight the safety areas that we need to highlight

SPEAKER_12
1:07:27 (0:00:11)

that's it maybe we'll start stop sharing there was a

SPEAKER_16
1:07:39 (0:00:09)

question we can thank you for the presentation yeah

SPEAKER_12
1:07:48 (0:00:58)

could I just add a little bit before we jump into the final discussion yeah I just want to highlight two things one is that this is a priority application as it's considered employment space 100 employment space development and District so the application is only coming once before the panel last per hour District policy and secondly it just want to remind the panel that we are looking at Agricultural Development here that has a commercial aspect to it but it's primarily considered an agricultural use so that's why the some of the information provided and the design overall you know it's more about practicality and not inhibiting the agricultural use of the rest of the property rather than truly you know high quality forming characters so just those two notes

SPEAKER_16
1:08:47 (0:00:07)

thanks Jonas I'm gonna go backwards from last time so we'll start with Julian

SPEAKER_02
1:08:55 (0:00:42)

okay thanks Jonas I have a bit of a problem here I think the project needs a landscape architect I'm not seeing any kind of integration of I fully thought through landscape concept that works with the buildings I have no problem with the use so I've got no problem with the building forms I think they're quite fun and I think you know there's a lot of a lot of support there for the architecture the landscape however I think needs some professional help quite frankly and I'm probably just going to leave it there

SPEAKER_16
1:09:37 (0:00:02)

did you have any so you don't have any questions just

SPEAKER_02
1:09:40 (0:00:00)

I don't have any questions

SPEAKER_16
1:09:41 (0:00:05)

no okay let's move to

SPEAKER_07
1:09:46 (0:00:16)

Jordan I'm gonna have to support G lead in this as the other landscape architect on the panel there's some drawings missing indicating Hardscape materials I'm seeing some alarming fall Heights suggested in one of the sections so I'm not comfortable reviewing this at this

SPEAKER_16
1:10:03 (0:00:10)

point do you have any so you don't have any okay no questions great

SPEAKER_07
1:10:13 (0:00:07)

I would have to ask a lot of questions that would be indicated in a drawing essentially so I don't think it would be an efficient use of the panel's time

SPEAKER_16
1:10:20 (0:00:04)

okay and you'll notice if this is only coming before the panel once is that an

SPEAKER_13
1:10:25 (0:00:04)

issue

SPEAKER_12
1:10:29 (0:00:25)

it's up to the panel members to provide comments but it is only coming in front of the panel once and as I said this is an agricultural development so the we've been fairly flexible on the requirements yeah so it's not your standard commercial development application

SPEAKER_07
1:10:55 (0:00:27)

this goes beyond Aesthetics and things like that there's materials and potentially Life Safety considerations with fall Heights that we would need whether it's a registered landscape architect or a designer whoever's the professional on record would have to provide an adequate level of detail in their drawings for us to be able to review it with those things in mind so totally understand that this isn't a typical public realm sort of project

SPEAKER_02
1:11:22 (0:00:04)

I agree Jordan the details just not that

SPEAKER_12
1:11:27 (0:00:20)

if I could just comment on Life Safety those aspects would certainly get addressed through the building permit process yeah I don't I don't know if life safety issues with site planning is something within the panels realm of um of scope

SPEAKER_07
1:11:47 (0:00:17)

well I'll phrase it this way I'm seeing things jumping out at me such as fall Heights that I'm picking up on as potential life safety issues so again I'm I wouldn't be comfortable reviewing this or indicating support or not support without further information

SPEAKER_02
1:12:05 (0:00:07)

I see this as an incomplete application

SPEAKER_12
1:12:12 (0:00:06)

okay I would I would suggest that we move through the rest of the panel numbers in case there are any comments

SPEAKER_16
1:12:19 (0:00:09)

okay are we are we still doing questions and then comments or are we just going straight to comments

SPEAKER_12
1:12:29 (0:00:07)

I think it's up to I would suggest that we go around in a question format and then move to comments

SPEAKER_16
1:12:37 (0:00:12)

all right Sarah is she still here you're not seeing her but I don't know if I'd

SPEAKER_13
1:12:49 (0:00:00)

I

SPEAKER_12
1:12:50 (0:00:00)

don't see her as

SPEAKER_13
1:12:50 (0:00:10)

well

SPEAKER_09
1:13:01 (0:00:20)

sorry I missed you there okay just try and be quick is that I've seen six bike spaces like Class B's on the site plan there is that all there are or are there other ones that I've missed

SPEAKER_00
1:13:22 (0:00:02)

could you say that again please

SPEAKER_09
1:13:24 (0:00:09)

sorry the I'm seeing six Class B bike spaces shown on the site plan I'm just wondering if there are any more and if I've missed any

SPEAKER_00
1:13:34 (0:00:06)

there are an additional four around the back of house for this for staff use

SPEAKER_09
1:13:41 (0:00:17)

okay thanks and the central space that's like outdoor space you mentioned it was for year-round use but it was enclosed by enclosing immunity to cover it has got a roof or does he actually have temporary walls that will be put up in the winter

SPEAKER_00
1:13:58 (0:00:14)

there will be screens that movable screens that move up and down so you can close that space off in the fall winter put heaters within the space to make it more usable

SPEAKER_09
1:14:12 (0:00:16)

are there any details on the screens like what are you thinking like kind of wood shutters or like more of a tent type structure fabric

SPEAKER_00
1:14:29 (0:00:01)

it's a mesh fabric

SPEAKER_09
1:14:31 (0:00:14)

it's a nice fabric okay could you just walk me through their rationale behind the location of the waste storage room please

SPEAKER_00
1:14:45 (0:00:55)

sure so we wanted to make it accessible for so there is a truck gfl truck can use the main laneway so we wanted to make it as accessible as possible without moving further into the site for garbage pickups and also we had spoken to we had spoken to the neighbors who early on had indicated not wanting to have a waste room close to their houses and then also dealing with the required burning around the building and grade change along with the statutory rights of way this is the location that we felt was best

SPEAKER_09
1:15:41 (0:00:04)

okay yeah thanks that's all my questions

SPEAKER_16
1:15:45 (0:00:01)

great moving to

SPEAKER_14
1:15:47 (0:00:19)

John um I just want to confirm to your meeting the zoning requirement for bicycle parking with the 10 stalls and then you're exceeding the minimum requirement for a vehicle parking is that correct

SPEAKER_00
1:16:06 (0:00:06)

that is correct I think we are exceeding by two parking spaces and meeting the bicycle

SPEAKER_14
1:16:13 (0:00:17)

requirement um I'm curious could you explain what the Intensive agriculture uses with what's going to actually happen there you've got like three in the really small areas indicated what's that going to be what's going to happen in those areas

SPEAKER_00
1:16:30 (0:00:07)

I will defer this question to our client agent Jeff Levine who is more schooled on that

SPEAKER_05
1:16:38 (0:02:15)

yeah hi my name's Jeff so this property is in the agricultural land Reserve which I don't know if you guys know too much about that it's meant for farming this Farm has been in operation under obese it's been a farm registered by with BC assessment for the past seven years it's actually producing farm so because we had to move up the elevation to the fcl of 11.15 we tried to ask for a reduction to 9.5 unfortunately we it wasn't approved so because we had to move it up so high in the agricultural land Reserve you can only your only support you're not supposed you're only supposed to take out the minimum amount of agricultural land for a designated Farm use which this is considered a designated Farm use and we do have to raise up the elevation and obviously we don't want Steeps really steep slopes so what we want to or our big retaining walls so what we're doing is we're sloping it down and all the area that says intensive agricultural use that is going to be used for just that it's actually going to be used for back to agricultural use so it's not taken out and that could be anything from we can have sheep there we could have we have chickens in the chicken tractor it's essentially a moving chicken Coupe that moves around part of the regenerative farming process we could have barley growing there we could have apples in the apple orchard growing there so it's an intensive agricultural use and it's outside of the this application because that still is not it's not being developed and that's one of the reasons why with the landscape planning our limits it's it's quite tricky because this is a farm you can't take you know there's some you can't go with a landscape architect to tell us what the plants are in the fields so only the areas within I think in some places about three meters around the building footprint is actually part of the development the rest is actually still in the ALR and it's actually intensive agricultural use

SPEAKER_14
1:18:53 (0:00:12)

two more quick questions um with the pedestrian or the sidewalk or The Pedestrian Trail there what happens at the North and South ends does that Connect into something else

SPEAKER_05
1:19:06 (0:00:31)

yes so that's the proposed Preston Trail so at the South End there's an existing crosswalk that goes to the Squamish Nation First Nations Reserve which has the Watershed Grill on it that goes across government Road and then at the North End the proposed crosswalk there goes to a concrete sidewalk on the west side of government Road and a bus stop

SPEAKER_14
1:19:37 (0:00:16)

so there's it does not link into a trail or any continuation of the sidewalk on that side of the road that just ends and shoots people across government road to the other side is that correct

SPEAKER_05
1:19:53 (0:00:03)

that's correct because it goes the

SPEAKER_14
1:19:57 (0:00:08)

question is um does the proposed crosswalk include any additional lighting or signalization

SPEAKER_12
1:20:05 (0:00:19)

John I can I can jump in here quickly because the frontage Improvement is something that are currently under discussion with the engineering department so that we don't yet know the full treatment of what's going to happen with whatever is outside of the property essentially on our road right away

SPEAKER_14
1:20:24 (0:00:09)

yeah does this does the proposed crosswalk include any lighting or signalization

SPEAKER_05
1:20:34 (0:00:14)

that's something to be discussed in our with in our discussions and conversations with District Squamish any approved any required lighting or signage

SPEAKER_14
1:20:48 (0:00:09)

okay so as currently shown to the design panel there's no additional lighting or signalization for that additional crosswalk and then one

SPEAKER_05
1:20:57 (0:00:12)

more question I'm just curious outside of the scope of what is in the local area for crosswalks that would be that would be an anomaly if we had some lightings or signals

SPEAKER_14
1:21:09 (0:00:15)

just one more question um I'm curious about this cylindrical building form and why it is spelled important to mimic grain silos just curious about that

SPEAKER_05
1:21:25 (0:00:26)

it's a farm and the grain silos are the most iconic feature of a farm we grow barley and a circle is the best most efficient use of space and that's the yeah it's a it's a bin a grain silo a grain bin it's on a farm most Farms have grain silos grain bins so we're replicating that

SPEAKER_00
1:21:52 (0:00:27)

way we're inspired by thinking of Bali and hot farming and the use of grain silos how we could replicate this into a building and as well as looking at all of the brewery equipment which all had this similar cylindrical language it just came that way and yeah it works it works

SPEAKER_14
1:22:19 (0:00:05)

yeah perfect thanks for the explanation that's what I was looking for

SPEAKER_16
1:22:25 (0:00:02)

okay great and back