Advisory Design Panel - 19 Oct 2023


1: Welcome to the Squamish Nation Traditional Territory
2: ADOPTION OF AGENDA
3: COMMITTEE MINUTES
3.A: MINUTES
3.A.i: Advisory Design Panel Minutes: September 21, 2023
4: BUSINESS
4.i: Development Permit DP000610 – Third Avenue East
5: ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION
6: TERMINATION
1: Welcome to the Squamish Nation Traditional Territory
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SPEAKER_02
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sorry

ADOPTION OF AGENDA
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SPEAKER_02
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do I have motion to adopt the agenda sorry can I get a first and second on that

SPEAKER_10
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you had Luke in the main room

SPEAKER_02
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here okay

SPEAKER_10
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great was that Julian that

SPEAKER_04
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second yeah I'll second

SPEAKER_02
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that okay excellent have

Advisory Design Panel Minutes: September 21, 2023
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SPEAKER_02
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we distributed minutes from the previous meeting do we have a motion to adopt them as they are or

SPEAKER_09
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I had a couple of amendments shall I go ahead with

SPEAKER_02
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those yes

SPEAKER_09
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please in the adaptability accessibility comments on the fifth bullet point it says appears to be a bench at the top Terrace of corner Park and I had in fact recommended adding a bunch to the top of the Terrace Park thanks and then further down it says Bridge across Dry Creek bread should Creek bed not bread but also I had my recommendation was to consider adding a bridge across the Dry Creek bread with an accessible path to a picnic table in that pocket

SPEAKER_10
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park accessible path with a picnic table is that right

SPEAKER_09
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yeah to the picnic table because there was two picnic tables if I recall in the Park thank you those are my only

SPEAKER_02
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amendments great anyone else no great do we have a motion to adopt then great Sarah first who's seconding that great John thank you do we have a vote on that anyone in opposition please voice great we have passed that motion we've adopted the previous minutes

Development Permit DP000610 – Third Avenue East
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The council meeting was centered around a development permit application for a mixed-use development located on Third Avenue in downtown Squamish. The proposed development is located in DP Area 3 Universal guidelines, DP area 5 for commercial center, and DP Area 11 for protection from Wildfire Hazard. The project has undergone a comprehensive development rezoning process which has set the general parameters for the development including sighting, size, density, and massing. The CD 106 zoning is anticipated to be adopted this fall. The project has not previously been presented to ADP staff.

The design inspiration for the project is from the topography of the chief. The design of both buildings is informed by traditional heavy timber construction of First Nation's architecture and by an abstraction of the surface topography of the chief. Both buildings act in dialogue like the sides of a valley creating a gentle curved streetscape on both sides of the street. The material palette incorporates neutral tones accented by wood soffits and subdued colors that highlight the Southern and Northern portion of the buildings. The building curves outward at the center to highlight the midblock pedestrian crosswalk at the building entry.

The project statistics include a total of 6,232 residential area, 14 one-bedroom units, 44 two-bedroom units, and 25 three-bedroom units. The commercial area is of 1,476 square meters and the total area is 7,708 square meters. Total 83 residential vehicle parkings are provided and 19 commercial spaces are provided. One commercial loading space is provided. Total 204 residential and commercial bicycle parking is provided. 1065 Square meters of indoor amenity space is provided along with 4177 square meters of a third level and rooftop outdoor amenity space.

SPEAKER_02
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first item of business is development permit DP 610 3D Avenue East I am handing this over to Jesse planner to introduce the

SPEAKER_08
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project great thank you my name is Jessi Abraham planning consultant presenting on behalf of the community planning and sustainability Department I'll give a brief introduction to the project and then pass it off to the applicant team so this presentation is for development permit application for a mixed use development located on Third Avenue downtown Squamish the proposed development is located in DP Area 3 Universal guidelines DP area 5 for commercial center and DP Area 11 for protection from Wildfire Hazard the project has undergone a comprehensive development resoning process which has set the general parameters for the development including sighting size density and massing the CD 106 zoning is anticipated to be adopted this fall this project has not previously been presented to ADP staff did conduct a review against DP guidelines and concluded that a number of guidelines are not fully met so there is in appendix a of the report a full breakdown we would appreciate the adp's comments and recommendations on the following so looking for comments on colors and materials at street level so the guidelines speak to human scale development connection to the street unique detailing at Commercial storefronts and highlights vibrancy of the streetcape while achieving a pleasing overall color balance so staff are seeking adp's review of the building colors and materials for street level Frontage commercial signage and midblock cut through we're also looking for comments regarding development accessibility including pedestrian roots and accessible seating and common amenity areas also seeking ADP comments on the proposed parcade screening at the rear wall facing the lane and with that I will pass it off to the applicant

SPEAKER_02
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team great thank you

SPEAKER_00
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applicant team yeah thank you Jesse I'd just like to introduce our team my name is Phil Scott I'm the owner's rep and a project director and joining me today is Nishu set shett excuse me from y Yamoto architecture and Peter krook from Durante crook landscape architecture live and in person here Nishu will conduct the presentation and we're all here as well as Peter and we're all here to answer any of your questions as well that an issue please take it

SPEAKER_01
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away just sharing my

SPEAKER_10
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screen

SPEAKER_01
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oh just a second hi everyone this is Nishu I'm trying to share my screen asking me to leave the webinar and connect again sorry

SPEAKER_00
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just while we wait for issue as well I know that there's been the ADP package that you've received to review a couple of the a couple of the reference renderings that are being I guess presented today will also highlight a separate project so just for some background this project was actually phase two of two projects the first phase was applied for a bit earlier a couple years ago in 2021 that would be the project you can see now on your on your right the project that we're referring to today is on the left and it's now been accelerated between the two as phase one in an effort to Advance the delivery of some below Market housing that is being contributed as part of the CAC so they are obviously very similar looking projects but we are we are definitely speaking about the project on the east side of Third Avenue so it's just some context for you thanks

SPEAKER_01
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Nisha hello can you guys hear

SPEAKER_07
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me

SPEAKER_01
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yep okay just sorry for the technical error hi everyone I'll start with the okay so yes as Phil mention this ADP is for the East building but we are also working on the west building AC across the street the site is located in downtown Squamish at Third Avenue between Victoria and vinek Street ocp is designated as downtown commercial and supporting the mixed used density context around the proposed project has six-story buildings mixed use buildings three story dwelling across the subject site and two story dwelling to the north of the subject site the design inspiration is from the Topography of thief the design of both building is informed by traditional heavy Timber construction of first nation's architecture and by an abstraction of the surface Topography of the chief both building act in dialogue like the sides of the valley creating gentle curved Street scaped on the both side of the street as mentioned this ADP is for East building but we are also working on the west building which provides us an opportunity to create a relationship with two facing sites two buildings together create an UND diluting Street wall and transition from existing context on other side the building curves outward at the center to highlight The midblock Pedestrian crosswalk at the building entry material palette incorporates neutral tones accented by wood sofits and subdued colors that highlight the Southern and Northern portion of the buildings wood grain aluminium cladding highlights The Pedestrian entry as well this perspective shows both buildings which creates a unique Street scape and space between them the East Building view from the southwest side shows showing how the East Building is broken into two sections a to relate across the street the west building and B to break down the overall building length into two distinct Expressions the southern portion features step planes responding to the design color of the west building across the street as well as referring the layers of Chief A View From Northwest side the northern portion uses a darker cladding charcoal gray and contrast the white notched portion in between which separates the two halves of the building the residential Lobby is emphasized through the recessed canopy further differentiated from the commercial entries through additional warm wooden texture the same view statistics of the project total 6,232 residential area is provided and the unit breakdowns are 14 one-bedroom units 44 two-bedroom units and 25 3bedroom units commercial area is of 1,476 square meters total area is 7,708 square met total 83 residential vehicle parkings are provided and 19 commercial spaces are provided one commercial loading space is provided total 204 residential and Commercial bicycle parking is provided 1065 Square met of indoor Amun space provided along with u 4177 square m of a third level and rooftop outdoor Amin space this plan highlights the site organization small scale retail storefronts provide fine grain and pedestrian interest residential Lobby provides a mid block which helps Define the building break and emphasize the entry and relate to the mid block crosswalk retail Frontage is face into a mid block connection to activate the space and provide passive surveillance also we are providing a this 3 m mid block is at the North side ground level plan there are 2.7 M of front setback which also acts as an active Transportation space 3 m setback of mid block connection at the North Side both West and North setbacks are covered with canopy partially also the commercial units and residential along with commercial unit and residential Lobby there are garbage room bicycle parks at ground level all commercial car spaces are provided at ground level from the lane side and most of the car spaces are of longer long spaces along with accessible space and loading Bay level two residential parking ramp is also from the Lan side second level parking plan level three floor plan there is a indoor amenity at level three floor plan along with some outdoor sitting areas one two and three bedrooms units are provided and layouted accordingly at here typical floor plan of level four five and six so three bedrooms are mostly propos at the corner of the cor corner of the floor and which provides lots of ventilations and lots of light one and two bedrooms are in the center but also the balconies are designed with such offset that all the living areas and other areas get plenty of ventilation and lights all the balconies are covered from the top and that is a part of and design element also we wanted to keep it weather protected from the top and then it encloses the building envelope also roof plan there are outdoor sitting areas provided at the roof and east and west side we are providing extensive green roof west and south elevation the West facade shows all the commercial and Retail entries along with a residential entry South elevation we are providing a tall screening at the South elevation outdoor space between South outdoor space and adjoining property setback so yeah to block the viewing from their East and North elevation we are providing an opening at the Lan from the Lan side parking for some ventilation and this opening is covered with screen partial screening so that the services can be hidden inside ground level lighting plan at the west side we are providing Lights Under the canopies and in front of the residential entries and in the back lane side we are providing ceiling lights mounted in the floor these are the level two parking screening concept drawings so we are proposing double layered screening which overlaps with each other so that the neighboring neighbors have less view of the services inside and still we can get ventilation within signages are proposed as per District of Squamish bylaws this is the view for West building proposal and the corner view of the west building and Landscape Peter I'll hand over to

SPEAKER_07
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you okay Nisha thank you for that I'm Peter krook the landscape architect on the project and I guess we don't really need to go through the cover sheet so if you could just move on to the next sheet please that would be great so what we're doing here is presenting the ground floor with the Third Avenue to the top of the drawing we've been working with the city on developing the streetcape for Third Avenue so we have Street trees utility Boulevard a bike route and then the sidewalk itself against the building pH and we'll be working over the next short while to finalize the details of that but there's a number of projects done recently on Third Avenue and we'll be picking up the patterns and such that are used on those projects move over to the next slide please as we move up over top of the and get to the residential level which is level three this is all being built of nopes sorry so it's okay this is all being built on concrete so we're able to we're gonna have some co code height Planters on the on the lane side with some trees and planting so that those patios on that level have a nice friendly Edge and bring in some landscape and as was mentioned by Nishu the corners of the site on the South Side are common amenity spaces for the building and those are screened from the units further south and then Up on the Rooftop we have a common amenity space for the building and it's built with as was mentioned a feric fair extensive green roof that wraps around the space and then immediately in Board of that we got two Gathering spaces with seating platforms for people to gather sit and socialize and enjoy the space and enjoy the views from the site the rest of the drawings presented really are more detailed planting plans we've been working again with the fire restrictions in the area picking our plant material based on that and then the cross-sections in the drawing clearly show the grade relationships and the spatial relationships between the edges of the site so I'm sure you've had a chance to look at those as well and I think really that covers the landscape you I don't need to talk about details so I think we're good here thank you very

SPEAKER_02
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much is that does that complete the presentation from the applicant

SPEAKER_01
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then

SPEAKER_02
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yes great I believe what we you know typically do is we will have one round of questions from all the panelists followed by a round of comments from all the panelists I

SPEAKER_06
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Charles sorry this is s you know I just need a clarification that who is the registered architect presenting the project because I couldn't see the sign and signature and seal of the architect on the drawing

SPEAKER_09
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M

SPEAKER_01
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so the sign of archetyp would be Tao Yama Moto and I'm also and registered architect presenting the project Nish shed okay

SPEAKER_06
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so yeah so this is confirmed that the registered architect is presenting the project yes

SPEAKER_02
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yes great I'm trying to set my screen here so can see exactly who's available but s since I see that you're there and you know might as well start you should go ahead and ask your

SPEAKER_06
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questions yeah my question is first can you please show me on the drawing on the floor plan how you resolve The Pedestrian AIS and how it works with the with the you know pedestrian path of travel in the neighborhood with adjacent

SPEAKER_01
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properties yeah sure so we will be continuing we'll be continuing the existing sidewalks and all the proposed boulevards of bike routes and pedestrian routes and the same We are following the same street section of the adjoining properties currently

SPEAKER_06
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okay so just

SPEAKER_01
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it would be continuous bike Road from the joining property and then we are proposing this from

SPEAKER_06
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the West Side yes only from West yes okay and also how about the parking access is it on the same

SPEAKER_01
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side so there are two parkings commercial parking is on the ground level from the lane side and residential parking is at the level two and the ramp is at the lane side so this is the residential sorry residential parking at level two and ramp is proposed from the lane side okay and adjoining property sorry just to add are adjoining properties are ramp is just beside it so that's very

SPEAKER_06
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so what is that Arrow because so you know zoom in

SPEAKER_01
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yeah so this arror we are we are providing additional 3 meter of setback which is a mid block connection because the whole Third Avenue has a continuous construction so this is the one of the ocp guideline requirement to provide the mid block Connection in between that's why we have additional 3 meter of setback

SPEAKER_06
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so this is also the you know the required a path of travel for you know pedestrain access I guess yes correct

SPEAKER_01
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okay

SPEAKER_06
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yeah okay and also can you please clarify more on the how you use the you know color scheme as well as the material on the you know

SPEAKER_01
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elevation yeah sure so basically we are trying we are trying to keep all neutral Shades and we want to and also we are designing the east and west building together so as talk we are trying to break this long building into two parts where the southern portion of the building reflects similar details and cladding colors as West building and the North of the north of the building has a darker tones so both buildings are broken into two sections with a white shade also we want to the basically the entrances of the retail and Commercial frontages we wanted to give more pedestrian friendly atmosphere so we have added a few painted concrete Shades at the North facade and South facad and residential entry is breaking those two part with the wooden

SPEAKER_06
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clading okay how about the neighbors you know what's what is the you know you know how you coordinate with the you know how you see how you how is your design Concept in terms of how it works with the neighborhood they're all gray I think what cannot yeah

SPEAKER_01
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they are they are gray yes so this neighboring building has a dark gray color and also on the opposite direction of the west building has also the dark color

SPEAKER_06
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yeah because when I see this 3 view it's really very gray and it's not giving me a very residential atmosphere okay so I think you I can just you know move it I can give it to the others to asked the question but my only comment would be please also change the drawing and you know name the architect the Architecture Firm with the architect you know when presenting it in as a DP package should sign and seal the drawing thank

SPEAKER_01
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you thanks

SPEAKER_02
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y I'm going to go with the you know the order that the list happens to have come up on my screen here so John can I you have

SPEAKER_05
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questions just a couple of questions I want to return to the surface parking again so the that grade parking so just confirming the residential parking is all on the Second Story and these unit these parking stalls are specifically for the commercial is that correct

SPEAKER_01
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correct

SPEAKER_05
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and I'm just I know we talked a little bit about pedestrian flows but just curious so what what's the is the idea that when you park in the surface stalls you'll use that mid block cut through to go all the way around to the front of the building to access the commercial units

SPEAKER_01
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so these stalls are just for commercial units and every commercial unit has two exits and the one entry from the front and this would be a second entry okay so the owner or the regular users can use the back entry but yeah the other person people can use the M block by

SPEAKER_05
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to go that's an upgrade entrance to the building Lobby in the middle there as well and at the rear of the building

SPEAKER_01
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that's an exit yes that's a Lobby exit are required per code yeah

SPEAKER_05
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okay I mean I guess just thinking about I guess it's always a question where to locate the accessible parking stalls wondering if it might make sense to relocate the one stall closer to the lob the entrance to the building Lobby yet I don't know okay that's great

SPEAKER_01
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okay

SPEAKER_05
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I'm still a little bit unclear about the screening panels at the rear of the building at the Second Story do they move or are they stationary I'm a little and what's the purpose of showing sh the like exploded view of them maybe you could just clarify a little bit what's going on

SPEAKER_01
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there yeah currently it is concept proposed as a fixed screen but yeah we have extended it to 3 ft to overlap which with each other so basically they have six in inches of overlapping so it is kind of an OPAC but still have space for the ventilation

SPEAKER_05
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and so when like I'm looking at the sort of little elevation on the right the so there's the black panels and then the white in between them are those the also the same panels and they're just alternating colors is that what's going on there

SPEAKER_01
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so this is very conceptual we are we still have to decide what material to be used what colors to be used but the idea to show white and gray currently is to show that would be two different layers to it okay so

SPEAKER_05
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there's like a little bit of depth here

SPEAKER_01
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the

SPEAKER_05
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panel okay super okay just a couple more questions for the commercial units at grade is there are you building in just like a little bit of space in the front for example like Cafe seating or some other sort of like act you know activity that spills out of the front of the stores

SPEAKER_06
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so is there

SPEAKER_05
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is there room in

SPEAKER_01
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that yeah that's a that's a good point Phil we do we have we have not planned right which one would be a restaurant or a cafe or something right

SPEAKER_00
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Nishu if I if I could answer your question I would say we don't know what the uses would be in yeah any given Cru U certainly the idea of having any kind of sidewalk use could be determined in the future depending on the you know bylaw considerations but I think the midblock connection was really intended to be animated a little bit more it it's a full 3 meters and in the future it would be probably six meters if a joining development occurred so in that three meters there is an intent that the sidewalk being also covered with a canopy could be used for some kind of breakout purpose but there you're not you

SPEAKER_05
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haven't just to clarify the answer to my question you have not designed in any space in front of the crus at grade that could be used it's just like bike lane sidewalk store that's yeah

SPEAKER_00
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okay yeah I mean it's a good question we have done so on the west building for certain reasons the facade of the of the retail Frontage is recessed from the setback to allow the architecture and the articulation of the columns as well the door entries have also been recessed to not I guess interrupt the sidewalk

SPEAKER_05
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activity okay just two more questions hopefully quickly so one are you proposing some public art as part of this project it didn't wasn't clear from the

SPEAKER_01
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joins

SPEAKER_05
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no okay and then maybe could you just spend a little bit more time clarifying this conceptual link of the building design with the chief like I see the color so there's gray color and I see these the texturing and layers of the chief and the photograph but I'm just not totally understanding how that connects with what the apart from the color I don't see how that connects with what the building looks

SPEAKER_01
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like so I'm

SPEAKER_05
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just getting that I'm really I guess I'm trying to get at that development permit area guideline for what's unique and distinct to Squamish and how that's reflected in the building and I'm just I like to understand a bit of a stronger link here between that development permit area guideline and what we're looking

SPEAKER_01
0:37:53 (0:00:52)

at yeah so main idea was to create the vertical and the layers from the from The Rock texture and that is that is how we came up with came up with this vertical solid facad which actually reflects east and west building both Al together and also this both building works as an Val like connection where all the steps both go works together to and create a streetcape that was the that was the idea and beginning of the

SPEAKER_05
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project okay that's all my questions thank

SPEAKER_02
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you next on the list here would be Julian thanks

SPEAKER_04
0:39:03 (0:00:15)

Charles thanks guys for the presentation ground floor midblock connection on the North side can you just talk me through the lighting

SPEAKER_01
0:39:18 (0:00:23)

strategy So currently we are proposing the canopy lights here that is what we have thought of but we can definitely work more on providing additional lights as the Street Cape come up comes up but currently we are just showing the canopy light there so

SPEAKER_04
0:39:42 (0:00:12)

does that maybe this is a question for planning does that M Block connection become a street R of way and if so does that then is that part of scor mish's streetcape

SPEAKER_08
0:39:55 (0:00:21)

standard there is guidelines for midblock connections and there will be a statutory right away for Public Access along the midblock connection but it's still the responsibility of the property owner in terms of

SPEAKER_04
0:40:17 (0:00:25)

lighting right okay and sorry just to go back to the previous diagram there is there retail access I see a set of Doors by the look of things and they come of north northwest corner is there retail access there next to the bike next to the bike storage yeah there is that retail access

SPEAKER_01
0:40:42 (0:00:02)

so it's very small there is in the

SPEAKER_04
0:40:44 (0:00:18)

corner okay that's answer my questions there a couple of questions on the roof okay for Peter what's the rationale behind the extent of the extent of cream

SPEAKER_07
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roof the rationale the pattern that we've shown here are

SPEAKER_04
0:41:08 (0:00:02)

no not the pattern the extent of

SPEAKER_07
0:41:10 (0:00:14)

it had to do with percentage of coverage that we were trying to achieve in order to and we're trying to also line up the green roof with the more usable space of the roof itself so it lines up with more heavily used areas

SPEAKER_04
0:41:25 (0:00:07)

right what's the thinking behind the use of yellow

SPEAKER_07
0:41:32 (0:00:17)

Ceda it was just a product that we've used successfully in the past as a potential for the city modules so that's where that came from and it's a local material so we're happy to explore that with staff if they'd like to use suggest something

SPEAKER_04
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else okay I think that's it for questions thank you

SPEAKER_02
0:41:58 (0:00:03)

okay

SPEAKER_09
0:42:02 (0:00:19)

Sarah okay thank you for the presentation to begin with can you tell me what the clear space is at the end of the loading zone in front of the entrance to the lobby oh here

SPEAKER_01
0:42:21 (0:00:22)

yeah it should be I don't have to measure it in the drawings but it should be four like four to 5 ft I can check yeah it's 4T 4 feet 10

SPEAKER_09
0:42:44 (0:00:33)

inch okay thank you the meditation deck that's on the third level is that at grade or is it raised the Amin space the meditation deck that comes off the gymnasium on that corner is the decking at grade with the rest of the patio that's beneath the other amenity space to the left in the drawing or is it raised

SPEAKER_01
0:43:18 (0:00:12)

it would be it will have same level so we will be detailing out as per building code to have a same accessible level with indoor and outdoor

SPEAKER_09
0:43:30 (0:00:37)

space right but I'm not speaking about the all of this amenity space I'm speaking about the meditation deck in particular that comes off the gymnasium that's right adjacent to the table there is that also at grade yes super thank you got the height of the roof toone and just to clarify the accessible spaces that are at the rear of the building are only for retail and not for residential use

SPEAKER_01
0:44:08 (0:00:05)

yeah these are for retail and for residential we have additional at level

SPEAKER_09
0:44:14 (0:00:25)

two yeah unfortunately again with the package we it didn't come with the second level parking included so it was hard to comment on that given that in the package sorry that should be included yeah do you know what the height of the rear roof over hang is over the retail

SPEAKER_01
0:44:39 (0:00:14)

parking one oh just a second it should be around u 10' 2 in but I would

SPEAKER_00
0:44:53 (0:00:14)

confirm like the underside was meant to be 12T clear which is the same as the slab in the retail units as well

SPEAKER_09
0:45:07 (0:00:23)

okay super thank you can you tell me which units what residential units are meant to be adaptable so we are providing says 10% but I I'm curious which ones because I'm not sure again with the foot print of the washrooms being basically 5 by8 how adaptable those are

SPEAKER_01
0:45:31 (0:00:16)

Sarah we have not detailed out which unit we will be providing as adaptable unit but we will work on it on our during our design development stage so we will update you

SPEAKER_09
0:45:48 (0:00:31)

okay and then I just wanted to confirm so it's hard surfacing from the sidewalk at the front of the building it's hard surfacing adjacent to the street Edge or is there in the rendering it shows like grass is planted and I didn't know if that's just it's all hard it's all heartscape okay that's all my questions thank you thank

SPEAKER_02
0:46:19 (0:00:09)

you I believe there are a few people in the room at District

SPEAKER_03
0:46:29 (0:00:35)

Luke yeah thanks very much just a couple quick questions is thankfully I was saved till the end this time and so every everybody as else asked intelligent questions and I can just finish off but the probably question for Nishu what's the dimension between the proposed building and the building to the West it looks like it's set 51 off of the West PL but the dimension to the adjacent for

SPEAKER_01
0:47:05 (0:00:03)

building sorry can you say that again which

SPEAKER_03
0:47:08 (0:00:08)

which what's the proposed separation between the proposed building and the building to the

SPEAKER_01
0:47:17 (0:00:09)

West because the West is West is the sidewalk Third Avenue so North is up so you're talking about south

SPEAKER_03
0:47:27 (0:00:02)

or sorry to the South my apologies

SPEAKER_01
0:47:29 (0:00:26)

okay so South ground level it is it is ajusen the same connection and from third level we are separating it and it's 3 it is 5T

SPEAKER_03
0:47:56 (0:00:32)

okay yeah thanks and then as a followup to that question like are there I guess where I'm where I'm just by my question where I'm going with this is that it seems like it it's quite tight to some of the bedrooms on this on the south side of the building are there a horizontal angle of daylight requirements or was there a study done just to determine that there's going to be adequate light to those bedrooms

SPEAKER_01
0:48:28 (0:00:07)

do you mean this corner bedrooms right we have not done it yet yeah not done good okay

SPEAKER_03
0:48:35 (0:00:35)

okay and do you mind flipping to the Cru level to level one and sorry another dimension question so the depth of and granted I understand that demising is shown notionally at this time but is the depth of those crus am I right in quick math they like 82 83 feet is that don't have that off the top nor is

SPEAKER_01
0:49:11 (0:00:04)

yes that's almost 80 yeah that's correct

SPEAKER_03
0:49:15 (0:00:07)

okay and then so they the frontage is like 20 something so it's kind of like a one to one to four Ratio or something

SPEAKER_01
0:49:22 (0:00:03)

like that yes yeah 20 22 feet

SPEAKER_03
0:49:25 (0:00:27)

okay and then the idea I think another one of the panel members asked a question but the idea is that you're providing so there's it's a dual there the serus are dual aspect so you've got all the commercial parking is accessed off the lane and then theoretically someone is able to then access the crus through the back adjacent to the commercial

SPEAKER_01
0:49:52 (0:00:02)

parking yeah that's the that's

SPEAKER_03
0:49:54 (0:00:01)

the

SPEAKER_01
0:49:56 (0:00:10)

okay and also we wanted to give like enough streetcape to each Cru right they get different yeah

SPEAKER_03
0:50:06 (0:00:39)

right for sure okay and then not a question but maybe just a general comment I in the package that I downloaded I don't believe there were there were sections I think it's and sorry if I'm missing something but I'm flipping through and I don't yeah I think that's correct like just as a as a general note I personally find them some just two sections really helpful to kind of understand yeah building layout General orientation massing so that would be

SPEAKER_01
0:50:45 (0:00:00)

yes

SPEAKER_03
0:50:46 (0:00:06)

yeah for the future that I would find that super helpful that's it

SPEAKER_01
0:50:52 (0:00:02)

thanks thank you

SPEAKER_02
0:50:54 (0:01:03)

thanks great have I missed anyone among the panelists no that's everyone who's attending today so that would leave me I have a couple of questions here I mean you know first of all yeah you know since it's been mentioned you know is it's yeah it's a bit of an issue that there's no sections and that there's a missing floor plan in the package because it's a somewhat it's a somewhat unusual building in from that point of view the fact that there's a you know there's parking up above grade rather than below grade and that's you know significant here and it may be significant for reasons that are not immediately apparent I understand you're saying that the whole screening of that second layer of parking off of the alley is you know still very much in design development but it currently looks like what you're proposing is solid panels is that

SPEAKER_01
0:51:58 (0:00:41)

correct no these are these are not solid panels these are this would be a screen either metal screen with some perforation or some wooden screen with some perforation but or glass so we are still figuring out the detail design of it but the overall concept proposal is to have two layer of the screens so we can hide the services of parking inside for the neighboring

SPEAKER_03
0:52:39 (0:00:01)

buildings okay

SPEAKER_01
0:52:41 (0:00:20)

and also the reason to propose parking at level two is the ground water in Squamish so we are not allowed to have underground parking and yeah but we should have included the parking plan into the package we will resend you ASAP

SPEAKER_07
0:53:01 (0:00:02)

after

SPEAKER_02
0:53:03 (0:00:36)

this okay and you know these again the these this set of drawings is somewhat you know minimalist and I think you know that's more than just an aesthetic Choice you know there's very little detail that we're able to glean from these drawings in terms of the treatment of those apperences on the on the

SPEAKER_01
0:53:39 (0:00:01)

roof okay

SPEAKER_02
0:53:41 (0:00:39)

yeah and there's also there's no you mean yeah so I have a question about if we go to if we see the typical floor plan yeah now I noticed something here and it's because I've been working on these kinds of projects lately and I i' like you to describe from a code point to view how this floor plan works and why there's that double set of opposite swing doors in the middle of the corridor next to the

SPEAKER_01
0:54:21 (0:00:40)

elevator yeah it's that's the that's a dead Corridor length requirements so from the elevator to the end of the last unit entry we are exceeding the distance the Cod of the code requirement and that is why we have to provide the firewall so this whole Center wall would be a block wall which would works as in firewall and then this doors also works as an fire doors that's why that's why we had this two doors here on both

SPEAKER_02
0:55:01 (0:00:29)

side right that's what I suspected yes so the is the is the provision of a firewall here something that is being required only because of travel distance or is it also because of building area for what is effectively a is it five no six it's six story wood frame isn't it

SPEAKER_01
0:55:31 (0:00:01)

it is six

SPEAKER_02
0:55:32 (0:00:08)

stories so you're exceeding the bill allowable building area for that occupancy

SPEAKER_01
0:55:41 (0:00:15)

classification okay as far as I know it is related to the travel distance of exiting but I will check if it is because of the height restriction or not I'll make a note of it

SPEAKER_05
0:55:57 (0:00:01)

all

SPEAKER_02
0:55:58 (0:01:01)

right and you know and so the only comment in the staff report that I'm wondering about sorry I'm gonna go find that in my notes here so there's a we've been asked to comment on colors and materials at street level you know I'm referencing the design guidelines and requirement for you know unique detailing and you know vibrancy and so on and I'm curious to know what kind of comments or interactions or guidance staff may have provided in the design development process to

SPEAKER_10
0:57:00 (0:00:03)

date

SPEAKER_01
0:57:04 (0:00:15)

Phil do you want to answer because it's more of an history discussion which you did where I was when I was away would you like to comment on

SPEAKER_00
0:57:20 (0:04:33)

that maybe Charles to simplify it throughout the process I think the project has gone through a number of revisions and studies mostly to do with the massing of the building but a lot of it you know extended into fairly specific areas the rooftop for one was not previously being used for outdoor amenity the outdoor amenity bylaw changed during the resoning process to include C4 which was our original proposal we do have a C4 property in this assembly and the quantity was such that in the downtown commercial area the rooftop was the most suitable place to accommodate some of that so maybe to answer your previous question the rooftop was one of the major revisions that we produced at the request of staff and Council through a series of engagements so there was a committee the whole meeting there was a first reading and then a second reading prior to the public hearing and third reading so along the way we were able to work with staff and our consultant team to develop that a lot of the representation of that is going to be based on some of the detail design but the intent is really that it's consistent with the rest of the materials and colors of the project and so on obviously mechanical equipment is like any project going to be placed on the roof and it'll be screened appropriately and Peter's team has done a good job like he was mentioning to align some of those uses on the roof the other the other important aspect of that engagement was really about the streetcape our street front character was presented in the rezoning application with a lot of references and a lot of detail we're actually quite fortunate because we're allocating an additional 5 meters to the crosssection of the street across both projects and you know what that does is it really allows us to create this unique experience so some of the retail frontages have gone through a couple different iterations I think the significance of the parade you mentioned as well is really important because it actually creates it provides quite a lot of opportunity between the commercial and the residential uses as a buffer as well as obviously providing another layer of call it structural Integrity for the plantings on the third floor which really enhanced that layering effect that Nishu spoke about the enhancement of the of the residential entries also came about as well as the differentiation between the two sections of the building entirely so you've got you've got that color youve the awning changes well the awning on the north side which we're looking at clearly here is a metal awning with a glass canopy whereas and it's continuous this is wrapped around the north side just to ensure that there's light penetration through that canopy as well whereas on the south side of the building the canopy is opaque you know the creation of that midblock connection was something that we worked really closely with planning the other big change which kind of features here was the addition of Class B bike parking quite a lot more bike parking has been provided on the site as well but definitely stepping back of the upper floors is something that we've accomplished pretty well here and in case I've missed anything i' maybe put it to Jesse who might have some something to say about planning inputs as

SPEAKER_08
1:01:53 (0:00:18)

well thanks Phil yes from a staff perspective I think that captures a lot of it I'm just looking for Activation and midblock connection the colors came in more monotonous than it did than what you see here they've added color at street level and broken up the building

SPEAKER_02
1:02:11 (0:00:00)

in terms of

SPEAKER_08
1:02:12 (0:00:03)

color materials sorry

SPEAKER_02
1:02:15 (0:00:19)

go ahead yeah and versus you know versus you know what's been you know you know directed to some extent by staff to be to be you know altered or worked on you know compared to the original intent of the

SPEAKER_08
1:02:35 (0:00:17)

project yes so Phil captured our feedback to date we have not provided a full post application review letter yet to the applicant we will wait on the minutes from ADP and coate that with staff comments regarding the DP

SPEAKER_02
1:02:52 (0:00:12)

guidelines okay great right thank you so I believe that completes our round of questions let's go through you know comments from the panel I

SPEAKER_09
1:03:05 (0:00:03)

had I had one more question before comments please

SPEAKER_02
1:03:08 (0:00:01)

H yes

SPEAKER_09
1:03:10 (0:00:12)

I just wanted some clarity of whether or not the loading zone is going to be utilized for the garbage trucks to collect the garbage from the garbage room can you clarify that

SPEAKER_01
1:03:23 (0:00:06)

please yes it would

SPEAKER_09
1:03:29 (0:00:18)

be it is garbage yes it will be okay thank you yeah that's all my questions thank you thank

SPEAKER_02
1:03:48 (0:00:35)

you oh great so I think we can we can repeat the original order of speakers for panel comments which means that s you would be going first did s drop out I don't see her on the list of attendance anymore oh no okay that's too bad so that would mean I believe John would be

SPEAKER_05
1:04:23 (0:03:31)

next thank you a couple of comments here it's so fantastic to see this larger number of three-bedroom units I'm really supportive of more just ratcheting up the expectations on three-bedroom units I think it's a little bit outside of the scope of the adps work but it did look like a few of the three bedroom layouts were kind of challenging or quirky I know it's hard when you're trying to fit them in but maybe there's some improvements that could be made there I really appreciate the narrower retail units and it really appreciate the provision of covered outdoor bike racks it's nice to see that and that's great for kind of starting to future proof downtown comments I wonder if there's an opportunity to add some maybe like a little bit more highlight color I think it was noted that the color scheme is pretty muted generally that's okay but maybe there's like a little opportunity to do something with that I also just wonder if there's some opportunity to address that expectation that the building design really acknowledges what's unique and local about Squamish and some opportunity to ground the building in this place where it is a couple of thoughts there you know maybe some warmer and more natural materials particularly at grade there sort of quite a lot of the like fiber cement board maybe there's some opportunity to mix in some more natural materials I think also that conceptual link with the chief is like pretty weak if you're G to go forward with that it really like to see that developed and kind of made a little bit more explicit this sort of horizontal and vertical elements I just it's not quite capturing me in terms of that streetcape at the building front edge I'd really like to see at least some of the crus offer additional outdoor space like I know you're trying to want to maximize the like the GFA there but I do see a huge benefit to being able to have a little bit of outdoor Space by maybe staggering them or maybe there's something you can do it's too bad that there's no art proposed as part of this I think I'd like to see that might be an opportunity again to build that kind of local and unique link really still it's quite unclear what's going on with the parade screening at the back so maybe there's some opportunity there with to look at public art provision I think that's been done elsewhere in Squamish to pretty good effect and then I just like to reiterate again that ADP drawing packages should be sealed should be easy for us to tell who the architect is and the package should be a bit more complete so certainly in this case that second floor plan should have been included for us to see what the parking layout looks like and I think another panelist noted that the sections should have been included thanks that's

SPEAKER_01
1:07:54 (0:00:02)

it thank you

SPEAKER_04
1:07:56 (0:02:45)

okay Julian thanks Charles I've got a couple of comments some of them are re reiterating John's comments I think at first glance it looks to be fairly elegant and well-considered building however I think there are some things that could be improved upon so I'm going to just do reverse order of my comments U so there's some more detailed stuff to begin with I think in general we need some more detail required on that parade screening I think it needs some more clarity and we need to know what we're looking at it's a little woly right now you know we don't know if it's metal we don't know if it's wood we don't know if it's glass it could be anything so I think we need a bit more detail on that I would question the use of yellow Ceda on the roof typically this is all growth Ceda I want to know that it's coming from a sustainable Source if it is if you're proposing to use yellow CEDA and I think really we should be looking at Alternatives to Yellow Ceda I think the mid block connection needs a bit more activation the bike racks seem to be kind of precluding the use of the corners and I think if that was a cafe or something like that glazing to grade would be great and really open up that corner I'd like to see a bit more detail on the lighting I think just sof Lighting in the canopy is not really going to provide enough down there and at 3 m still relatively narrow considering we're right up against the adjacent property I know ultimately you know the intent is to double these things up but I think to actually activate that space it needs a bit more thought putting into it I think the green roof should really cover the whole roof that isn't being that isn't accessible it seems a little mean-spirited just to have these two patches on either side of the activated space I'd question the use of white cement board cladding especially on North facing facades and west facing facades lots of examples around town white cement board doesn't stay white for very long it tends to go pretty green in general I'd like to see a bit more unique detailing especially at the ground floor level there doesn't seem to be anything particularly unique here going on I don't think this project would look very different if it was in Colona or if it was in pton it would look very similar I think conceptually I find it a little tenuous the link between the chief and the architecture it's not a clear link I like that you're looking for things to link the design to but I'd like to see it actually referenced and you can read it clearly in the architecture and in the design that's my comments thank you very

SPEAKER_10
1:10:42 (0:00:01)

much

SPEAKER_02
1:10:43 (0:00:06)

yeah great thank you Sarah oh yes that's

SPEAKER_09
1:10:50 (0:02:28)

right thanks okay so to begin with the loading zone doesn't provide enough depth between the end of the loading zone and the entrance so I'd recommend that you move it North I guess in front of the garbage room so then at least it's not going to be blocking the that main entrance into the lobby it still is going to be a bit tight but I think people going in and out of the garbage room from that end is less frequent then going into the main entrance you should use the current CSA b651 standards for the accessible parking so it's 2600 plus a 2,000 millimeter axis ale for a total of 4600 not four meters okay I find the East Elevation is it's pretty homogeneous I think yeah there needs to be a bit more contrast with color and also at the streetcape level that it is a bit flat what else there should be automatic doors into the common areas with the elevator so both front and back of building as well you might want if those there's a firewall separation in the hallway and those doors are heavy fire doors then you might need to consider having those have automatic door openers on as well particularly if you're going to have your adaptable units grouped on particular floors then that should be consideration ensure that the harvest table is going to be accessible that there's going to be the appropriate knee clearance as per CSA b651 standards the end of the trip facility I'd like you to encourage you to have it be a wheel and shower with a bench so that it could be accessible to everyone and then just another sort of thought is with the bike storage is to consider wider bikes that are either you know an Adaptive mountain bike or a cargo bike of how they will fit into those into those units yeah that's all my comments thank

SPEAKER_02
1:13:18 (0:00:04)

you great thank you sir

SPEAKER_03
1:13:22 (0:03:06)

Luke agree with as per agree with the comments of the previous panel members that spoke just I to disclose but also to add some context I've worked with Y Moto architecture on I think four projects when I was at previous companies and one of the things that I always appreciated and always admired about working with the studio is that they were able to deliver buildings with or design buildings with a kind of understated Elegance and there wasn't too much going on but and there was there was Elegance in the in the Simplicity I know that specific staff asked was to for comment on the colors and materiality at street level sort of broaden that to the to the overall colors and materiality I think that maybe this building airs a little too far on the UN understated piece and I think that there's probably some really simple moves that can be made and again I think I've in previous experience like yeah Moto studio is really good at just kind of subtle tweaks to create moments of surprise and so maybe there's an opportunity to do that with like John said some incorporation of some natural tonality just to add a little bit of warmth to the overall cementitious panel and you know I understand there's wood tones to the to the sopit but there may be an opportunity there but o overall I think I think that it's a nicely designed building and I think there's probably some pretty simple moves that can be made on the again I think the some fellow panel members already got into a lot of detail on the accessibility piece so I don't have too much to add there but if you don't mind flipping back to the Cru level again like I'm sure that applicant has consulted with local retail Brokers and you're kind of confident in the in the with to depth ratios and so forth like to me these crus look quite deep and I think one of the challenges might be is the with the parking at the back and the idea that folks can park in the back and then access the rear the units that may create challenges with the future tenants trying to create a backup house condition in the back again like I'm sure this is all well thought out and D like the diligence is has been done but yeah just as a general comment like I can see some potential challenges with leas ability related to the depth of those but that's really it for me appreciate the presentation and thanks

SPEAKER_01
1:16:29 (0:00:00)

thank

SPEAKER_02
1:16:30 (0:00:03)

you great thank

SPEAKER_03
1:16:33 (0:00:04)

you

SPEAKER_02
1:16:37 (0:01:21)

I do like this how in general this is a very elegant building there are a few design decisions that I'm a little bit conc concerned about you know but overall I mean it's a nice looking building is basically it I think there are some technical issues that are you know that are going to have impacts on the design one of them is this problem with the firewall it I don't know if you if you have a code consultant on this project and what kind of alternate Solutions you may be looking for but the firewalls going to have to carry through all the way to grade to the entire depth of the building so you're going to lose a parking spot on the lane and you're and any kind of Pathways you have running there or are going to you know are going to need to be provided closures on hold opens or something like that but it the building does not from you know from that technical code point of view actually does not work currently so you have a little bit of an issue there so there's going to be a little bit of redesign involved with

SPEAKER_01
1:17:58 (0:00:01)

that

SPEAKER_02
1:18:00 (0:04:43)

okay in terms of the street Frontage design colors and textures and so on I mean I you know I think that's again it's an elegant building and I don't have like really major issues with it you know there was a page added on the end of the package about the signage that I think was you know maybe not very much developed and it was not clear whether you know what you were proposing there was you know specific or maximum dimensions for the signage and so on right but it's hard to imagine that you're going to have businesses move in there that aren't going to want to have you know maybe more control and more V Variety in the signage and I think that' be appropriate you know for the for the city anyway but the relationship of that signage to that canopy along the street that canopy is relatively narrow and very high up I don't think it really provides any kind of real weather cover as it is so I think that you'd want to you know maybe explore you know some you know some possibilities of providing better weather coverage by lowering that canopy and changing its relationship to the signage somehow the that midblock connection down the east side of the building I'm surprised that was not seen as an opportunity to do some really detailed landscape design to me that really should be thought of as a kind of a very specialized kind of linear Park where there's you know there's plantings featured artwork seating and so on it's very blank and the facade there is very blank I mean fortunately at least there's Windows looking onto it but you know that's it is and then you know someone discussed this you know this I I'll call it a post- rationalization in terms of trying to relate the design to the tectonics of the chief you know I do believe it to some extent because it you know there's this interesting kind of you know layering of interconnecting volumes within the massing and but it's an interesting decision if you even look at this view here I understand that there's this idea that there's a relationship between this project and the building across the street but the direction that step back has been affected means that you end up exposing a blank end of wall on the neighboring building at the West end of this project right rather than having the stepping occur in the other direction right where you know the two building facades could meet at a plane and you would still you know create this sort of O you know lapping volume effect but towards the center of the building and you know and then in reference to that I don't even you know that reference to the cliffs side is like I would agree you know I have you know real concerns with the fact that this building is essentially entirely clad in what I expect is actually Hardy panel and I'm not sure about what the proposed system for fastening is here and what the connections between the panels are but you know the detailing on that material can be very tricky and the project can really fail if either the detailing or the quality of execution isn't there it can end up you know really looking cheap and that's you know that's dangerous I mean I would you know I would almost like to see you know a higher grade cladding you know being proposed if it when it's going to be used so extensively that that's all of my comments thank you

SPEAKER_01
1:22:43 (0:00:01)

thank

SPEAKER_04
1:22:45 (0:00:22)

you can I just that Charles I think that Third Avenue single point perspective I don't know if it's just me but I find it slightly terrifying I look at that and I'm just like the homogenity of it just is terrifying to me I don't think that's really that visual is doing the project much many

SPEAKER_02
1:23:07 (0:00:02)

favors yeah it's not it's not a great

SPEAKER_09
1:23:18 (0:00:02)

rendering comment Charles that I that I made

SPEAKER_02
1:23:21 (0:00:01)

Sarah yes please go

SPEAKER_09
1:23:22 (0:00:18)

ahead I just wanted to say that the second accessible parking spot should be moved to where the current loading zone is so that they're adjacent to each other and then if they need to go in that main entrance it's the shortest route or if they need to do the pass through then they can do that

SPEAKER_02
1:23:41 (0:00:06)

I agree that would seem a more logical placement of things yes

SPEAKER_01
1:23:48 (0:00:01)

yeah

SPEAKER_02
1:23:49 (0:00:46)

okay I believe that concludes the panels liberations we would now be looking to decide on a motion so is someone wanting to propose can we have a quick discussion about this I would say that we're likely here look at wanting either a you know a b or a c does the panel feel like we want to see the project again or do we feel that our comments are thorough enough that we can trust staff to

SPEAKER_05
1:24:35 (0:00:15)

execute I'll move recommendation B as long as we provide a good specific list of our

SPEAKER_04
1:24:50 (0:00:02)

comments yeah i' second

SPEAKER_02
1:24:53 (0:00:07)

up great so can we have a vote on it

SPEAKER_05
1:25:00 (0:00:17)

Charles maybe you could I don't know if you keeping notes as chair but provide like the recommendation would be a list of our comments summarizing the comments of each of the entirety of the panel and then that and then that

SPEAKER_02
1:25:18 (0:00:15)

recommendation yeah I do have some notes but there's there quite an extensive list of comments that we've made

SPEAKER_05
1:25:33 (0:00:52)

so I think we were talking about some improvements for Street activation and some concern with the light color of the fiber cement panel on Northern elevations looking for opportunities for warmer and more natural materials some strengthening the local connection and maybe the conceptual link with this place and with the chief there was I think some comments around following accessibility standards with the loading space the amenity space and the end of trip space and the bike storage some suggestion that the crus were quite deep so those were the summary notes that I took

SPEAKER_04
1:26:25 (0:00:05)

m i just add to that more detailing on the on the parade screening I think that needs

SPEAKER_05
1:26:30 (0:00:05)

resolution thank you good one yeah maybe an opportunity for some public art there

SPEAKER_04
1:26:35 (0:00:06)

for sure use of yellow cedar on the roof I would question that significantly

SPEAKER_05
1:26:41 (0:00:06)

and Julian your suggestion to expand the green roof portion I think that was important

SPEAKER_02
1:26:48 (0:00:11)

yeah I believe that further design development of the midblock connection from the street to the Lane is warranted here absolutely yeah

SPEAKER_04
1:26:59 (0:00:03)

absolutely it needs more there

SPEAKER_05
1:27:03 (0:00:11)

yeah can we get that in the minutes okay are there a couple any other Luke or Sarah or anybody few things for me

SPEAKER_02
1:27:15 (0:00:12)

okay well again I would like to see a you know I am concerned about the technical aspects of the of the Code Compliance having an impact on design here I think

SPEAKER_05
1:27:28 (0:00:14)

to we need to make sure that we're staying within the ADP scope there with our comments as well hey I think we have there's a particular scope that we're supposed to provide comments within that relate to the development permit area

SPEAKER_02
1:27:42 (0:00:05)

guidelines yes

SPEAKER_05
1:27:48 (0:00:06)

yes Carly were you able to capture those comments

SPEAKER_10
1:27:55 (0:00:03)

yeah do you want me to just quickly read out the ones that'll go in the recommendation

SPEAKER_05
1:27:58 (0:00:02)

defitely great thank you

SPEAKER_10
1:28:01 (0:00:26)

so the street activation improvements Improvement or warmer more natural materials strengthening the local connection accessibility standards which we can list from the previous comments that Sarah made sizing of the crus detailing of the Parkade screening opportunity for public art the use of yellow cedar on the roof expanding of the green roof and further design of the minbo

SPEAKER_05
1:28:27 (0:00:10)

connection yeah with that I would be happy to move recommendation B that we would like the applicant to work with staff to resolve our

SPEAKER_04
1:28:38 (0:00:05)

recommendations yep I would second

SPEAKER_10
1:28:43 (0:00:03)

that I had it seconded by

SPEAKER_02
1:28:46 (0:00:11)

Luke great do we still have quorum I believe we do right we need we need six we have six one

SPEAKER_10
1:28:58 (0:00:07)

two we need five we need five and I'm just checking here

SPEAKER_02
1:29:05 (0:00:18)

so we got Sarah Julian John Luke and myself is that correct

SPEAKER_10
1:29:23 (0:00:06)

so we've just got four then just give me one sec

SPEAKER_05
1:29:30 (0:00:01)

I think there's five

SPEAKER_02
1:29:32 (0:00:03)

five because we have we have Luke in the room plus myself

SPEAKER_10
1:29:35 (0:00:08)

sorry Luke yeah bye bed great yeah that's good thank you

SPEAKER_02
1:29:44 (0:00:24)

so we're all in agreement is that is that a unanimous vote on resolution B yep great that brings business to an end did we have further did we have further items here to discuss

SPEAKER_09
1:30:09 (0:00:06)

nothing other than I mean again just reiterating to planning that we need to have a complete package when

SPEAKER_07
1:30:15 (0:00:00)

when it's brought to us

SPEAKER_09
1:30:16 (0:00:04)

right like shouldn't have missing

SPEAKER_02
1:30:20 (0:00:05)

pages okay can

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SPEAKER_02
1:30:26 (0:00:11)

we move to end the meeting I'll need a first and a

SPEAKER_05
1:30:38 (0:00:01)

second

SPEAKER_02
1:30:39 (0:00:12)

that great second all right great all in favor if you're opposition say nay great we are done for today thank you very much

SPEAKER_10
1:30:51 (0:00:05)

thank you thanks everyone